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Seated Half For Grading Thoughts

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 Posted 06/30/2017  11:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coconutjoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I'm thinking about purchasing this seated half. Would this be considered as a details coin? Or will this be market acceptable?

Thanks for your comments.



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 Posted 06/30/2017  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you like it, buy it and enjoy it.
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 Posted 06/30/2017  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like it's been cleaned,yet again it's all up to you to buy or not to buy! it does have a premium of around $40.00ish
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I believe it would be a details coin, yes.
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vf details cleaned
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 07/06/2017  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coconutjoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the replies.
I want to learn more about when a cleaned coin is market acceptable, although there is no concrete answer looking at TPG graded coins.
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This, like most grading, is subjective, but when the devices start to look mushy in spots (see obverse shield and the lettering at LIBERTY) while you can see plenty of detail in Liberty's hair in head, it is pretty obvious. This particular case doesn't appear to be a close call. It is more a question of whether it will be just be designated cleaned or harshly cleaned to me. Market acceptable would entail pleasing toning that obscures the damage done by the cleaning, or a cleaning that doesn't leave significant signs. But where that line is varies from person to person.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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I've looked at a boatload of graded Seated coins. I don't see any obvious signs of cleaning that would trigger a details grade. It's nearly impossible to determine if a coin has been cleaned with certainty based off of photos but the seated series enjoys a greater tolerance by the TPG's for old cleaning. If it was cleaned 60 years ago, it has since recovered and developed a nice circulated cameo. The ones you have to watch out for are the blast white coins that were cleaned recently and have obvious hairlines.

This coin is market acceptable.
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Details cleaned..all the fields have a wiped look to them and dirt remains tucked along the lines of the devices.
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