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Hey everyone, Recently, just sold off my Morgan dollar in order to upgrade it. I personally love the look of classic proofs but do not love the price. I was looking into Morgan proofs and they were too expensive for my budget. My question becomes, how close to the real proofs do DMPL and PL look like? Is there a significant difference between PL and DMPL? I want one standout example, which looks like a proof, in the highest grade I can afford. Unfortunately, there is no where I can see these in person. Would you all recommend getting a higher grade PL or a lower grade DMPL? |
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IMO when ypu are dealing with PL or DMPL, lower grades will stick out worse than a regular MS example. Also, the price jump from PL to DMPL is often quite the climb. My advice would eb to get a 64 or better PL and try to obtain one that is the closest to DMPL as possible.
Edited by BigSilver
06/30/2017 6:38 pm
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Big silver provides some good advice as there are some really nice PL coins. The difference between Proof and Prooflike is the bold strike on the Proof coins and the way the coins were handled by the mint. On the business prooflike coins there was no special handling of the coins. If you are going to buy that one special coin that will knock your socks off, buy a DMPL in MS64 or higher with strong clean mirrors and frosty details. Note that grading on DMPL and PL coins has been inconsistent in the older holders. The best years for high quality DMPL that are the most affordable are 1879 S, 1881 S, 1882CC, 1884CC. Here is a photo of one of mine that I purchased in a PCGS holder and sent off to CAC.  |
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Is it a big difference between PL and DMPL?
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Edited by John1
06/30/2017 8:21 pm
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In my experience, DMPL Morgans can actually have more reflectivity than proofs. Proofs are proofs because of the way they are struck and the crispness of their details, in addition to the mirror finish. Here are a DMPL and a true Proof from my collection so you can compare them side by side:     The first one is shinier, but the second one is just more beautiful. |
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The first one is shinier, but the second one is just more beautiful.  |
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Beautiful coins everyone! I love the proof, the cc DMPL, the UDM.
I'm torn between getting an MS62DMPL vs a MS65PL. Both are similar prices but I want one standout piece and cannot decide.
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The typical MS62 DMPL is not going to be a wow coin as a DMPL shows every distracting bag mark. Without seeing the coins, you will most likely be happier with the MS65 PL. If the 65PL has contrast and strong mirrors, it should be a nice looking coin. If the mirrors are cloudy or look weak, pass on the coin.
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65PL over 62DMPL for sure
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Here's some more shots of my proof Morgan to show that it does, in fact, have a mirror finish:   |
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Let's talk about actual coins then. Option #1 - ms64PL - $180   Option #2 - MS62DMPL - $180   Option #3 - MS62DMPL - $170   Option #4 - MS65PL - $260   I think option #2 looks nice and #4 but I have no where as close to as much experience as you all so I'll ask for your input. Out of curiosity, what is the entry price to a proof Morgan? |
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if you want to give us your price range, I think the community would be of great assistance in helping find you a quality example within your budget.
Feel free to call me Will.
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#1, large carbon spot on reverse, some clouds in mirrors, a little baggy for a 64, but the coin does have good contrast.
#2, Coin does not have good contrast for a DMPL and soft on frosty details. Typical bag marks for 62.
#3, good contrast, very baggy.
#4, Coin has some finger prints and not much contrast.
It is not easy to find a good one. Keep looking.
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Here is an example of the type of coin that you should be looking for. The coin has good contrast. The bag marks on cheek and fields are per grade. Would the coin earn a CAC sticker? I would say no because the cheek may be a little baggy for CAC. 332068326343 Edited by Slider23
07/01/2017 8:11 pm
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