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1939 Roo Halfpenny, And A Question

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 Posted 05/16/2008  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farnbycoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Now I'll need to look up what FBL and CBL mean

FBL= Flat base lettering, CBL= Curve base lettering.
Inadequate striking pressure, and/or, inadequate master die pressure when making a hub, will result in die fill problems, that are observed as curved base letters. The same phenomena is observed on USA Bust dollars (so called bifurcated lettering)
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 Posted 05/16/2008  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farnbycoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Getting back on topic, I have always wondered why the 39 roo has a far higher book price than the 44 Half penny. Is it simply because it is the first roo half penny, with a much lower mintage than the 39 COA reverse? The 44 has a lower mintage than the 39 roo, so has me thinking, was the 39 roo reverse exported for metal value at some time?
By the way KurtS, very nice coin, as nancyc said, you could easily give it a Fine+ or F15 grade.
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 Posted 05/16/2008  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Farnbycoins, thanks for all the great info!
Comparing the '39 Roo 1/2d to the '44, perhaps there's higher visibility/demand due to it being a transitional variety?
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 Posted 05/16/2008  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what does the 1d or 2d or 1/2d always mean?
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I have always wondered why the 39 roo has a far higher book price than the 44 Half penny


This I have wondered too. At any given time you can find a reasonable condition '39 roo, but try and find a '44.
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 Posted 05/16/2008  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
farnbey is probably right, exported for metal..
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Maybe spedward, though is at best, an uneducated guess on my part.
Maybe nancy and kurt were on the right track with the early Rennicks lower mintage figures.
This would have initially given the 39 roo the lowest George V1 mintage. This then makes me wonder, why wasn't the value rectified when the mintage figure was corrected?
Maybe this is where past collector interest, and the transitional variety interests come into play.
Perhaps the sandpit or other expert member will come along and set this straight for us.
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 Posted 05/17/2008  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day,
quote: "what does the 1d or 2d or 1/2d always mean?"
I feel old ...
what we called a penny was, historically, descended from an ancient Roman coin, called a "denarius". This was abbreviated to "d". Very confusing when I was a boy. Because of a similar history, the abbreviation for pound (= 20 shillings) was "L", for "Librum" (or similar). Shilling was abbreviated to "s", but not because shilling began with "s". No, the shilling was descended from the Roman "solidus".

So, and this will sound hilarious to people born after 1966, "L.s.d." used to be a synonym for "money" generally. As it happens, the other type of LSD became a topic of conversation about the time that decimal currency was introduced.

Back to your legitimate question:
1d = one penny
2d = two pennies, usually written twopence, but pronounced "tuppence". Australia never had a 2d coin, but the Brits did.
1/2d = one-half penny, usually written halfpenny, but pronounced "ha'penny".

The Brits went decimal about 1970. The pound remained the same. The shilling disappeared. The old pennies, etc disappeared. Instead of being equal to 240 old pennies, the pound was now divided into 100 New Pence, which were abbreviated "p", which you have probably heard of. A few years after decimal conversion, the Brits dropped "New Penny/Pence" down to just "Penny/Pence".

Peter


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 Posted 05/17/2008  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OH YEH, I get it now

Thats why all the old Australian stamps have 1d written on them!

the british ones have 1p for penny or pence
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