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1920 Penny Dot Above Top Scroll And Below Bottom Scroll

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 Posted 04/27/2008  06:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would like to know the value of one of these in fine and very fine condition.

I have seen ones with dot above top scroll sell for around $200

Dot below ones are common.

So what are these? Ok learjet heres your pictures.

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 Posted 04/27/2008  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

What you need Spedward is a copy of Greg McDonald's Australian Coins and Banknotes.

All current prices are in his book.

You can get a copy from any coin dealer, some bookshops and ebay.
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 Posted 04/27/2008  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes you need a copy of Maccas
but in the meantime
1920 . not the double scroll
Very Good 6
Fine 18
Very fine 65
extra fine 225
aUnc 550
Unc 1900
Choice Unc 3600
Gem 5750
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 Posted 04/28/2008  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yeh guys, I bought maccas off ebay about 3 days ago, but no postage on bloody weekend, should arrive Wedensday - thursday

Thanks once agen for the prices goodie.

I think it is very fine.
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Hey I just realized last night it probably is worth nearly $425

Are you sure goodie? In maccas it says it's $425 in very fine.
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 Posted 05/13/2008  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Nice sharp ones like you posted in the photo forum.
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lol, ok.

the top one is the only extremely visible dot. I might be able to get the second one, pics in 10 minutes!
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 Posted 05/13/2008  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Last image learjet, you can see both dots.
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 Posted 05/13/2008  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. Now I need pics of the obverse to grade by.
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lol ok, no centre diamond and 4 pearls, will post pic in 5
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Obverse

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 Posted 05/14/2008  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farnbycoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you have there seems to be a 1920 Dot over top scroll, dot below bottom scroll penny.
Has the Indian die(hub 2) obv. These are mentioned as very scarce, but you can usually find 1 listed at any given time.
I would grade yours touch better than VG(obverse) better reverse, perhaps about fine.
This one would probably sell at auction for Between $20.00 and $30.00, perhaps a bit more.
Regardless, would be a welcome addition to many penny sets.
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 Posted 05/14/2008  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dangit, I thought maybe.. fine obverse, very fine rev. ?

I reckon it can get $50 +
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Is ok spedward, grading is difficult, and varies from collector to collector. There are many grading standard guides found on the net and in text, but was sent this quick check guide by a well respected seller.
good - no pearls but all lettering etc visible.
VGood - 4 pearls with nice reverse.
almost Fine - 5 to 6 pearls and partial diamond.
Fine - 6 pearls, partial diamond, full lower band
gFine - as above with full centre diamond.
aVFine - as above with both bands visible
VFine - as above with 7th and 8th pearls visible
hope this helps.
I honestly felt I was being generous on grading yours. Have a look at my penny collection in my galley, has a 1920 double dot there in VG+- aF. Will give you a good reference point, though I'm a pretty SH photographer.
It has Point of diamond visible and 6 peals, lower band is not complete, so VG+(maybe closer to Good VG). Yours from what I can see has 5 pearls, no diamond.
Good luck getting $50.00 for it, you never know.
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oh ok then, well it's in the middle, the coin is almost fine. There is a 5th pearl visible, but no center diamond.

So I reckon $50 at the most.
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There is a good grading PDF file in the link below that should be savable to your computer. It is an ANDA grading guide and is just over 3 meg in size. Cheers.

http://www.anda.com.au/documents/re...%20coins.pdf
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