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I dont know... But hopefully someone can help.
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The date "1921" has doubling from the pics. Check the VAM WORLD site that jhs posted at VAM WORLD for the doubled date for a 1921P Morgan dollar. There are like 10 or more VAMS containing the double date - check each one for a specefic match with your coin. 1921P- VAM5,6,10,11,13,16,37 are just a few. Good luck and WHEN you find your VAM- let us know which one- post some pics please!
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Try 1921P VAM5 first- that seems to be the only one mentioning all the tops of the date showing signs of doubling *including the doubling of the 2* See if any of the other features of VAM5 match your coin.
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You have a D1a reverse or what they call the "Zerbe" dies with the 17 berries. What looks like doubling in the S's in states, Is common on all the D1a reverses I have seen. It has a spiked F in the bottom cross bar in OF, and if you checked the top arrow head it would have die scratches on it. Not to mention the extra berry in the wreath, top right. I would check the reeding to see if it is an infrequently reeded coin, some of the Zerbe dies were. I would also check the bottom right cross bars in both 1's in the date, they looks as if there might be doubling there. Check the inner right ear for doubling also. Now that I've said that, you want to know what VAM I think it is. The answer is, I don't know. I was however looking at one exactly like it last night, and I can't find the variety either. quote:
1921P- VAM5,6,10,11,13,16,37
Sorry chuckster, none of these have the D1a reverse die so none of them could be a match.
Edited by NGiles 04/25/2008 2:27 pm
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Gave it a try (LOL)! *I know you said its a 17 Berry Zerbe etc, - but what do you think about the date- it sure looks like all 4 numbers are doubled,especially the perpendicular portion of the 2. Could he possibly have a "NEW"/ old VAM discovered?
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could it have any added value? I ask because I cherry picked it from a junk box
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NGiles- your are correct again!
Disregard all my comments on the double date etc- based on these new pictures-I don't see any doubling on the date. There goes that theory out the window!
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The date "doubling" looks suspiciously to me like "machine ( mechanical ) doubling" that I have seen on several Morgan and Peace ( mostly mislabeled double dies on ebay). I can't tell without tilting it under a loupe just how flattened/sheared the edge is. see examples http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...Doubling.htmJim
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Zacharycash, That is the same variety I am looking at. There is very slight doubling in the inner ear on the right side. And the bottom right side of your 1's are doubled. I am not sure if it is MD or DD I am leaning towards DD, I hope Superdave comes along to confirm that or tell me I'm crazy. My coin also has what I believe is a strike through on the neck and date. I first thought it was damage, but it is "behind" the 1 in the date rather than over it. My coin is normal reeding so I assume yours is the same. Here are some pics. Doubled 1  Doubled Ear  Doubled S in States  Strike through  Strike through Closeup 
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Could this have any added value?
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It's possible that it has added value, though I don't believe it will be a lot. Zerbe dies have a slightly increased value to begin with, but the key is the information I don't have. I need to identify the VAM to see the coins rarity and interest factors before a value can be established. I'm going to post my coin on VAMworld to see if I can get it identified. I will let you know what I find out.
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