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The coin has a frosted look that increases as you view towards the edge. Is this a photography issue or a coin issue? If coin issue what is going on?

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Die wear maybe? Like a transition from PL to normal?
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My guess is that the coin is frosted with some rim toning. The black circular area is most like a reflection of the camera lens.
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He's using a homemade diffusing of some sort, lite areas outer, mid darkened center lighter, looks like natural frost with bag rubs...but if one is good, that can be artificial
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and appears they are using a circular light, and that may be the reason for the darker center.
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and appears they are using a circular light, and that may be the reason for the darker center.
I agree.
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How does the lighting, in this case, effect the condition of the coin? What are the opinions on this coin as presented? Thanks again. Just trying to learn.
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The goal of taking coin photos is to make the coin appear as the view in hand. The photo could be hiding issues with the coin. From photos the coin does not appear to higher than MS 61, but it could be a details or AU. The best practice on buying coins with strange photos like this is to pass.
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Tend to agree, or ask for better ones.
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The seller is using a sneaky technique to make all of his coins look PL/DMPL. This is probably being done using a combination of lighting and the right surfaces. Look at the odd reflection of the coin around the edges - as though it's being photographed on top of a shiny surface. It looks Photoshopped and extremely unnatural.

One of my guesses is that this is accomplished by using a semi-opaque glass or plastic tumbler, placing the coin at the bottom of the glass, then placing a filtered or diffuse light source at an angle (perpendicular) to create maximum contrast and minimum reflectivity, e.g. directly above or below the coin. A plastic Coinsafe-type tube might also work.
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Agree with Adam. I have seen this sellers pics and I said to myself run away. They are doctored to look pl. I bought 3 coins this week that looked pl. only 1 panned out the other 2 are being returned.
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Any chance that they surface of the coin has suffered from some type of slow chemical reaction (PVC)? I'm thinking that the coin may have been in a holder for several years.

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