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Gallienus Dianae Cons Avg - Accidental Christian Symbolism On A Pagan Coin

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Just realized I never shared this fun curiosity:

Gallienus AE Antoninianus
GALLIENVS AVG, radiate bust right
DIANAE CONS AVG, stag walking left, officina mark below
RIC 179 (var left, X)

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Gallienus-Dianae-Cons-Avg---Accidental-Christian-Symbolism-On-A-Pagan-Coin

Is that... a cross under the stag? Nope, the celator just goofed and engraved the officina mark (X for Rome, 10th officina) a little crooked. Conspiracy theories aside, the celator was probably a Jove-fearing good Pagan who got a little sloppy with their work. But, on a series intended to deplore the gods for protection of the Empire and the Emperor, such a mistake probably would not have been tolerated lightly!
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Looks like the die cutter might have been a Christian and took a chance. But come to think of it I don't believe this form of the cross was used this early. If anything it would have been a Chi Rho or a fish.
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It is a fun thought!

I did a little poking around, and despite what little hard evidence survives, it appears that cross-veneration among early Christians dates back at least to the 2nd century, although they apparently drew the cross as a capital T rather than the form we are used to today.

Here's an interesting light read:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ale...nos_graffito
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...the celator just goofed and engraved the officina mark (X for Rome, 10th officina) a little crooked.


Just curious, Steve: Why do you assume the officina mark is crooked? Couldn't that mark actually be the only thing on the reverse that is correct?:

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I think you got it Bob

Now to sell it on ebay to get the scratch for an XF Otho denarius
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Cute, Bob.

But seriously, Steve, what is the NORMAL orientation of this mark as it has appeared on other examples of this coin? If they are ALWAYS oriented like this, then it is not a mistake by a Celator, it is part of the design, and is intentional.

Do you have a counter-example?
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I do get the point. Very interesting find. Thanks for showing us this.
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