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Is This Token Genuine?

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 Posted 07/20/2017  11:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can someone please tell me if this token is genuine ... with such little wear I have my doubts?


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 Posted 07/20/2017  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I've found, all of these are modern fantasy tokens and vary in style (and location).

There are some listed on TokenCatalog.com and they're all described as "Fantasy."
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 Posted 07/21/2017  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Circus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes a real fantasy modern token, There are a number of the Nevada House that are currently selling .999 silver ones with their brand on them. They sell well over spot, premiums are $60 to $100. But as I understand it not enough to covers service,Those are sold as collectors items only
http://www.kenbarr.com/fantasy.html
It is listed on that page only with a Jackson location
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 Posted 07/21/2017  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$2 flea market item ....
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 Posted 07/21/2017  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very little value as it is a modern fantasy, with $2.
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Thanks for the replies ... I thought this might be the case.

Out of interest do genuine tokens of this exist? I can't find much information on them but according to http://redskytrader.com/brothel-tok...ker-685.html

"These coins from houses of ill repute are made of bronze and are excellent copies of the authentic coins used in Shady Milt's Silk Garter."
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 Posted 07/21/2017  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Circus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No there are some saloon tokens for drinks, but not for services of the ladies there are claims that there was "real ones". But no proof some of the saloons had the same name as the palaces of pleasure. Other than the ones I referred to in my post above, modern day .999 fine silver ones "But, that is pure fantasy. Almost. These tokens were never exchanged for services in the way the stamping implies. But, there are many examples of tokens used as advertising in the sales of services ranging from mass transit to telephone calls to video games. There are even real examples, both historic and modern, of tokens minted by working brothels to advertise services or lure customers. In some ways, tokens dance on the razor's edge of the real, flirting with fantasy while offering or implying real services. They tease with the promise of flesh, warm and willing, but deliver only a wink, a nod, and a bit of a laugh."
"There are brothel tokens that are "real" in the sense that they were or are distributed by functioning brothels. Antique tokens are mostly French and are all highly prized. They do not circulate at flea markets for pocket change, but rather pass through auction houses and coin shops. These antique brothel tokens, which date as early as the 1890s, rarely promise the kinds of services referred to through tantalizing innuendo on novelty tokens, but instead advertise the business and occasionally offer the promise of a free drink. Brothel-associated tokens of more recent vintage exist as well. For example, women working at the famous Mustang Ranch distributed brass tokens of their own that serve as a business card, imprinted with the woman's name alongside her crib number and the name and location of the business. For a customer to collect these tokens directly, he would also have to collect the services of the brothel's workers as they would hand the tokens out to clients they wanted to see again. The tokens then serve as a kind of souvenir for the patron just as they serve as an advertisement for Suzy in crib #3."

"Recent tokens distributed by legal brothels in Nevada have increased in value. Beginning in 1992, a number of Las Vegas casinos began issuing collectable "silver strike coins" made of silver valued at $10 each. Brothels across Nevada such as the PussyCat Ranch in Winnemucca and Sharon's Bar and Brothel in Carlin began issuing similar collectible silver strike coins that featured distinctive artwork, unique to each establishment. But because a single $10 PussyCat Ranch silver strike coin is a mere fraction of the cost of services, their real value comes as a collectable that engages in the economy of sexual desire. The silver strike coin, unlike the cheaper brass token, carries the promise of a woman for hire, making its value as a fantasy object worth more than its value as tender or a piece of precious metal."
Here is a dealer in these modern rounds http://koinpro.tripod.com/BarsMedal...kerCoins.htm

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 Posted 07/22/2017  03:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Circus for your very detailed response, much appreciated. One of the things I really enjoy about collecting is learning the history behind a particular coin/token/medal.
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