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Can I Get A Grade On A Fatman

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I know nothing about world coins, but I buy ones I like. I thought the chubby guy was interesting enough.

I guess there are lots of die combinations/varieties on this, so if anyone can figure any of that out, it would be an awesome bonus.

Otherwise, what would you grade this 1914 Yuan Shih Kai dollar?

TIA!



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Just noticed that in the photo, it looks like the top of his head blends into the field. It doesn't, there is a good 'ledge' between his head and the field, it's a lighting thing.
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@beefer, while I will readily acknowledge that this isn't my area of expertise, I have noticed that the overwhelming majority of these posted to CCF are fakes. How sure are you that yours is authentic? You should consider using the search function here to look at prior posts as these may be helpful. I'm not saying yours is a fake also, just that these seem to be pretty widely faked.
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Who'd-a-thunk-it! Turns out it's way under weight, and even worse, it's magnetic. Yup, it's a fake. ALready spoke to the seller (auction house), and they'll gladly take it back and refund me, so no harm. I only paid $19, so it wouldn't have been a terrible thing if they didn't. Thanks Spence!
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Glad to see that was caught early. There are probably 25 fakes for each genuine example of this type. This isn't one of the better fakes.
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Ok well I'm bummed that yours ended up being a fake, but super-glad you can get your money back! Unfortunately, they may just turn around and resell it to another unsuspecting customer.
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I'm surprised there are so many fakes of this. Spence, yeah, the auction house guy said it'll go back to the consignor, so who knows what will happen with it. Good chance the consignor didn't know it was fake, but the auction house will be sure to let him/her know, it's a good auction house.
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You can tell this is a fake just by looking at the picture.
It is dated 1918 (year 7)

The only valid dates are 3 (1914), 8 (1919), 9 (1920), and 10 (1921)

See https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3849.html
Even Numista's page has a mistake. There were no coins minted in 1916 (year 5)
Notice there are two Y# 329.5, the lower one (1921) is correct.
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