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No Idea Carolus Iv, 1791 Coin, Probable (Most) Reproduction

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Just got this for a very very low price from a person that did not want it....less than 5 bucks. Can anyone tell me anything about it.... Is it a fake...? I normally collect greek, judean and roman coins...

Thanks

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 Posted 07/22/2017  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Justinokay to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does not look right to me.
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It purports to be an 8 Reales of Charles IV, a Chilean issue: 1791 So-DA, i.e. Santiago mint and moneyer DA, which is a legitimate moneyer and mintmark combination for this date.

It appears to be counterstamped twice on the portrait side. A nearly identical coin turned up for me on an ebay auction from an Albanian seller, although with less corrosion/pitting, but the identical marks and the same date.

Either 1) it's a very poor cast counterfeit, contemporary or otherwise, or 2) it's sustained major "shipwreck effect" damage from prolonged saltwater immersion.

I think #1 is more likely by quite a bit.

When genuine, it should weigh in at just over 27 grams and have a diameter of approximately 38mm.

Swamperbob is the expert in these coins, if he sees this he can provide much better information than I.
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The edge appears to have the mold marks around the perimeter typical of a cast fake. Better photos of the edge might help to confirm this.
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Thank you guys so much. I'll just keep it as a souvenir. Never thought it was real but because I have no idea about these coins, I just had to ask.
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