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What To Call These Errors?

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 Posted 04/26/2008  11:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add petepalomo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all!

new to collecting, these are from some roll hunting.

The 1985 D Penny has surface bumps, would this be from
foreign matter during minting process?

The 1999 P Dime has a 2nd rim on at the 6-12oclock position

The 1972 S and 1971 Pennies, just have really deep/taller edging.

On the reserve, you can also see from 4-7oclock on the dime another
edging effect.

are these something out of the ordinary in the way errors go? Also,
i'd really like to clean the stain on the dime if possible, any suggestions would be very appreciated.

regards and thank you!
pete from guam



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 Posted 04/27/2008  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
these are nothing out of the ordinary. not errors. the copper's are deeper because the die's used in the 70's. the dime has what looks like another rim but it is also exceptable. I would not worry about cleaning the dime it is only worth face value so scrub away you wont hurt the value at all.
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 Posted 04/27/2008  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The surface bumps on the cent are caused by little bubbles under the plating. Remember that all cents from the middle of 1982 on are zinc planchets with a copper plating over them. It is common to see bumps on zinc cents now and then from trapped gas bubbles. Especially in the 80's. The extra rim you are referring to is also common. When coins are struck the 2 dies are installed in the press and are like 2 round rods coming together end to end. Sometimes the dies aren't perfectly in line with each other end to end. In other words, the dies are parallel to each other but the 2 circular ends are shifted apart and do not meet exactly together. The press operator can adjust the upper (hammer) die to correct the alignment. This misalignment is called a misaligned die or MAD error. To have a premium the misalignment must be off so much that some of the design is missing. Usually it is letters since that is what is around the rim. You can tell if it is a MAD if it is off center on one side but on center on the other. Off center on both sides is simply an off center strike and not a MAD. The other thing you asked about is the higher rim. Good eye. But unfortunately the ones you show also appear normal. If the striking pressure is adjusted too high when the dies come together metal can start to flow up the one side of the die. This is called a fin. One side of the coin will have a thin almost knife like edge that is a little higher than the rest of the coin. Hope this helps your roll searching. You are on the right track with your questions. Keep looking at your coins and ask some more.
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 Posted 04/27/2008  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like these answers...good going.
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 Posted 04/27/2008  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are nicely worded answers! I agree with CC!

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 Posted 04/28/2008  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add petepalomo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah thanks much!

best regards
pete
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 Posted 04/28/2008  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fiddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coppercoins and foundinrolls. I've just got to say it, you two sound like Siskel and Eibert there. How many thumbs up?
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LOL! Lots of Thumbs Up! As seen in the following link:-)

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