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annes New Member Italy 4 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 2:28 pm Hi everybody I recently bought some of coins at an auction, and while I was able to identify most of the coins, I still have problems identifying a couple of them, and I hope you can help me identify them or point me in the right direction. The first coin - I think it is copper - I thought would be piece of cake identifying since it has the year on it, but no. It has the year 1580 on it and I think I can read DNI BENE on the legend it. On the back it seems there is a double-headed eagle, which is leading me to think that it might be German or Austrian or from that area. I'm not able to read the legend. The second one - which I think is silver - is without the year. On one side it has a large M in the middle on one side and on the other a coat of arms. The legend reads (I think) MONETA MEIENSIS on both sides. I tried googling this "Meiensis", but nothing relevant shows up. The third one - might be silver - is without year too. On one side it has a cross, and I think I can read part of the legend "TOVEHUR" or "TOVENUR", but it seems obvious that a part is missing. On the other side in the middle something is depicted, but I'm not able to decipher it. Part of the legend looks like it says "VANATIA" (maybe old for Venice?), but again something is missing. I hope somebody can help me ID these ones or point me in the right direction :-) Thank you! * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5174 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 3:05 pm The "VANATIA" actually says VENETIA, i.e. Venice. The curved "A" is a medieval E. I vaguely recall that "Meiensis" refers to the German city of Mainz. Might be mistaken though. The first one might be Austrian, but I'm not familiar with the series. I'll try to figure those out - will post if I have more info! Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5174 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 4:42 pm Turns out your second coin says METENSIS. The top of the T is cut off. This means it comes from the city of Metz, Alsace and Lorraine (now in France). Saurma has a very similar type (not quite yours). The Numista page for that same type mentions your variety. For the third coin, I'm tentatively reading the legend as +[A]NTO'VENER[I], which would point to Antonio Venier (1382-1400). Best Numista match is this type of Venetian Crete. If so, excellent find! Still no comment on the first coin - DNI BENE points to France, eagle and arms point to Austria. Can you post better photos - especially of the side with the year? Can't see anything on your tiny picture, sorry. Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 07/26/2017 5:29 pm For the first coin see: http://www.numismaticagroningana.nl...rmanneke.jpg http://www.numismaticagroningana.nl...rmanneke.jpg https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3125912 Report this Post to the Staff
annes New Member Italy 4 Posts	Posted 07/27/2017 03:44 am Bob L: Yes, that's the one! So then it's Dutch from Gronningen - a bit far from my initial thoughts about it being German or Austrian :-) january1may: Yes, that's from Metz alright :-) It never crossed my mind that Meiensis really should be Metensis, but it really makes more sense now. As for the Venetian coin I think you are absolutely right - looking at the Numista-page I think it is safe to say that it's the right one. It also adds up with the part of the legend that's readable! Thank you both of you for your help in identifying these coins :-) Report this Post to the Staff
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