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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3058 Posts |
What do you think? The coin is not mine.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
The die breaks are correct, but the counterfeits are getting so good. It looks good to me, though.
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
1849 Posts |
At first sight I do not see anything that makes me suspicious. It has both die breaks, so it is a die state C. Not too easy to fake those I would imagine. I give it a cautious 'OK'. Here is my 1804 die state C (Sheldon s-266c) for comparison.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4211 Posts |
Nothing jumps out at me that it is not authentic.
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Valued Member
United States
338 Posts |
It looks good to me. That's an expensive coin and deserves to be slabbed.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
I would be very cautious if considering purchasing this. I see many raised dots that make me think it may be a struck counterfeit from dies produced from an authentic coin with environmental damage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
My standard response to this sort of coin is: -- if you're selling it, get it slabbed (PCGS or NGC) -- if you're thinking of buying, DON'T unless you're CERTAIN it's authentic and original.
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
3058 Posts |
Ok, I will take your advice and not buy it. Thanks!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Tough call. I understand the concerns but it sure has a nice look to it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1475 Posts |
I've been looking at hundreds of early copper coins recently and this one looks little suspicious. As mentioned by dave700x, there are too many high points on this well worn copper cent. The wear does not seem to transition in a smooth fashion.
I would not buy this relatively expensive coin unless authenticated. If it's a fake, it's scary how good they have become.
Edited by Coconutjoe 07/28/2017 5:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
Quote: see many raised dots that make me think it may be a struck counterfeit from dies produced from an authentic coin with environmental damage. I am inclined to agree. Please pass on this one.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
How is it possible to achieve this sort of deep, mellow coloring on a struck counterfeit of a well-worn coin? Just asking.
Edited by Coinfrog 07/28/2017 6:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11951 Posts |
To me it has the right look. As Dave700x mentioned, there are a couple raised dots that bother me. If I could look at it in hand ... check the weight, and the raised dots. Then if the price was right ... 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
With respect to everyone, there is no doubt in my mind that this is genuine. It's a beautiful, warm early copper. If this is sent to a TPG and comes back as counterfeit, I will happily reimburse the OP for the grading fee. 
Edited by Coinfrog 07/28/2017 7:23 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7627 Posts |
Looks good to me! If you can get a guarantee of authenticity from the seller then buy it and send it in!
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Pillar of the Community
  United States
3058 Posts |
I know the seller personally. I should be ok.
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