These (and the others from your threads) are most likely Song dynasty coins. I'm painfully inefficient at identifying them (illiterate in Chinese, as it were) but this is my go-to:
He's got images of *almost* all Song dynasty coins in there. Note that the Japanese, Vietnamese, and Koreans all made copies of Song coins. Pretty sure none are Japanese bita sen or trade coins, at least.
@Finn235, my skills are no better than yours. I have the Fisher book, but the illustrations are not so good and I find the book difficult to use. I should get the Hartill book.
I am still not good at these, but I agree with them being from the (Northern) Song dynasty.
1) Maybe a Shao-Sheng one, made from 1094 to 1097 (click here, type CtrlF, then type in S-597 (or just scroll))? 2) Maybe a Chai-Yu one, made from 1056 to 1063 (the example on Numista looks closer than the one on the link above, so click here)?
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