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Strange 1941 Wheat Cent

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This came out of an old folder I purchased a while back. On the lower bust/shoulder there is obvious PMD but there are also silvery metallic spots there. It almost looks like the damage exposed a silver-colored metal but, I know that's not possible. I soaked it in acetone for a bit and also used a q-tip with acetone with no effect.

Do you think maybe whatever caused the damage left some metal of its own on the coin?

There is also something below Lincoln's eyelid. Die chip or doubled eyelid? Thanks for any thoughts!

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Something might have left that silvery color on that PMD spot. That looks like a Doubled Die on that eyelid. I don't see it listed on doubleddie.com or coppercoins.com so maybe it's a new listing.
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If you look on that PMD spot you can see one scratch that doesn't have the silvery stuff on it. So someone probably left it there by something.
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I think ts must have gotten stuck and then what what ever it was scraped against it - Earl, BioChemist and Halo will probably provide some good "Food for Thought" on this one.
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with E&V on doubled eyelid over a die chip. The shape across bottom of it is wavy like lower portion of eyelid. Now it could be a chip from a previous strike that was in die when struck?

The metal looks to be solder(tin), the scratches are deep, from something sharp, like tips of components of a circuit board...rubbed across?
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If you think it's a unlisted DDO for 1941 D, submit this cent to John Wexler.
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When I go to doubleddie.com, this is what I see (no pics):

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So, I don't know if there is a match or not.

I'm tempted to try and remove whatever that silvery metal(?) is but that may further damage a possible new DDO.

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Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like someone was trying to fill the scratches with it.
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Maybe an attempted botched plating job. solder ,mercury ,zinc ,etc.
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I pounded the Internet pavement including a few back alleys and have been unable to locate any known examples of a doubled eyelid for 1941-D cent. Sure resembles one.

Another option is displaced material. If closer examination should find the contact to the main eyelid shaved off a bit. Seems a bit flatten in the close up right above the suspect eyelid.

As for the deep gouges with imbedded silver content I can only speculate. Maybe a victim of sitting in a sliding glass door or window track with an aluminum frame. What ever it is happen after strike. Thanks, Doug.
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I blew up your pic. a bit and there may be an evidence of the metal displacement,perhaps more pros chiming in could help!

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That solder theory seems oddly convincing.
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Thanks for the responses!

I'll take a closer look at the eyelid and compare to see if it's damage or die chip. If it's not truly doubled then I'm thinking of trying a soldering iron to see if that metallic substace can be melted/removed. I must know what it is!
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Quote:
That looks like a Doubled Die on that eyelid.

Die chip!!
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Kinda reminds me of gallium. When you scratch aluminum and put a drop of molten gallium on, it makes the aluminum very brittle and you can break it with your fingers. It's also very sticky so it would leave smudges like that. Probably not the case but fun thought.
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