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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm not very familiar with these coins and I'm as blind as a bat. Any assistance in regards to grading and/or value is appreciated. I did my best with photo quality. Coin has nice eye appeal in hand. Thank you!     |
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Valued Member
United States
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Well, looks like a Swiss 20 Franc Gold coin. Coin looks beautiful except for that gouge? under the ear and the scratches by the date. Grade? au58? Seeing more wear on high points and a nick/scratch at 12:00. I stink at grading btw.
Composition: Gold
Fineness: 0.9000
Weight: 6.4516g
AGW: 0.186681241660906oz
Melt Value: $235.14 (8/6/2017)
Value seems to be about $220-240 based info from realized auctions listed on London coins.
Edited by Nazarene
08/06/2017 10:35 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thank you Nazarene,
I did not notice that gouge under the ear. You have a good eye. You are much better than me with "grading". ;-)
I have a couple of these coins. All accept this one is an 1935. NGC's website states there were 20 million 1935s minted.
I was happy to get this coin because, simply, I think gold coins are pretty and this one really "glows" so to speak.
Out of curiousity I looked up the mintage number of 1914s on NGCs website. They state it is 700,000. I thought maybe this 1914 would be worth more than the 1935s if all else was the same i.e. condition etc.
Thank you again!
Yellow88
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Hmm... I do not think I am seeing any wear. There is some discolouration on the tops of the mountains and on the top of the band in the hair, but I am thinking those are just breaks in lustre. There does appear to be a few marks, but none look bad enough to give this coin a Details grade, in my opinion. But even so, gold is soft and marks up easily. From those pictures, I would think MS-64.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Picture quality has been fogged somewhat, by photographing in the flip. Gold is soft, and probable hairlines (which cannot be seen here), tend to be obscured.
TPGraders grade these in hand with the assistance of a 10x loupe.
These coins didn't circulate much, if at all, much like contemporary gold from almost every other country just before WW1.
Therefore, most common grades for this period in time range high EF to gem FDC.
From what I see here, I will give it the benefit of doubt and say MS63, but harsh reality may bring that down to AU58 or even a bit lower.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Awesome! Thanks for all the help.
And, yes, it being in the 2 by 2 does fog the pic.
Coin looks even better out of it. No hairlines or anything like that.
I really like these coins and hope to get more.
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Valued Member
United States
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I always liked these. Don't have one yet.
MS61
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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According to my copy of
Munzenkatalog.ch - Schweiz (2008),
the price varies between 185 Swiss Francs (fine) to 365 Swiss Francs (mint state).
That is not much of a price variation through a huge condition range. I reason from this information, that the gold 20 francs of 1914 is basically a bullion coin that is stored as a backing to the note issue, much like gold sovereigns of the same date, and as such, almost all of them never saw circulation.
For 1914, 700,000 gold 20 Francs were struck.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i did not realize the 1914 is a bullion coin. Great info thanks. The resource you used is I'm assuming where your price estimates comes from- concludes 180 francs is below the current gold melt value but the higher number is way above current melt. Which makes me happy based upon my original purchase price. Once again I appreciate the good, solid info. It helps a lot. Great news all around. warm regards, Oh... here's a couple of pics of a few more I about within the last 30 days or so.     |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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MS-63 and as the others have pointed out it is just a bullion coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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Great feedback! Thank you all!
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