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New Member
United States
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Hello again, Once again I think I have found a counterfeit 8 Reales and wanted to share/get the forums opinion on this example. While cleaned and chopmarked, this 1800-Mo 8 Reales has a TH assay mark...and as far as I can see, only an FM assay mark should exist. Like the other counterfeit 1802 I found recently, this coin weighs perfectly, is the correct size, has the correct edge and this 1800 example's surfaces look very legit...no pitting or casting issues. I would be very happy to be proven wrong...but think it is counterfeit. Seems like the TH assay is a widely used reverse die for counterfeits.    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
536 Posts |
TH didn't start until 1803. To me, the second 0 looks suspicious.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts |
Underlying coin likely genuine - that second "0" was altered from something else.
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New Member
 United States
21 Posts |
Interesting! So, What, maybe like an 1806-MO TH that has been reworked to be 1800. Interesting. The second zero does indeed look altered.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts |
Probably more like the digit was removed altogether (smooth), and then... that "0" reconstituted in its place.
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New Member
United States
21 Posts |
Interesting, you may be right. Thanks for your help. I'll get it under some magnification tonight.
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New Member
United States
21 Posts |
I took a few photos with magnification and I think you are 100% correct! The date has been altered. Take a look at the image below...the second 0 has clearly been ground-off and a new (rather amateur) zero was put back on. You can even still see the scrape marks in the inside of the second 0 as well as the tool mark in the field next to where they tried to add the serif. Thanks again for all the help - this turned out to be more interesting than a simple fake...wonder why someone would try and alter this date...  |
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Valued Member
Uruguay
217 Posts |
 I think the coin was found pierced in the fourth numeral position, then the hole was repaired by a jeweler and it is easier to form a zero than a six ... could it be? Take a photo of the reverse side at the "0" position. |
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New Member
United States
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Interesting thought. Taking a look (the '0' in question is opposite the dot to the left and including some of the R in Rex), it doesn't look like other repaired holes I have seen, but then again, the reverse in that area is heavily warn and scratched...could be signs of grinding off any signs repair. Either way, interesting :)  |
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Valued Member
Uruguay
217 Posts |
It was probably repaired a long time ago and the jeweler did a good job ... but of course he was not a numismatic  An interesting coin in any case, made me remember another one (Philippines Peso) that I posted in ccf ..... sometimes it is easy to see the repair but other times not so much. http://goccf.com/t/269368&SearchTer...,philippinesEdited by cara
08/07/2017 10:03 pm
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