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Plastic Mold Defects - 2017 Commemorative 1967 Centennial Coins Proof Set

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 Posted 08/08/2017  11:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well, here's another annoying defect... each slot has extraneous plastic flares showing on the coin rims (I think they are called flashes):

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I call them burn marks. Here's a closer look:

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How could this ever get past QA? This is beyond me.



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 Posted 08/09/2017  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Overdone a bit.
Plastic blobs are probably there to stop the coins rotating in their holes.
Very poor method of packaging. Coins may end up being permanently stained.

Better to take them out of this environment, and put them in 2x2 flips.
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 Posted 08/09/2017  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just receive my set yesterday and noticed the same thing but wasn't sure what it was. Do all the sets have this defect ?

I'm thinking about returning it to the mint anyway as the outer box is damaged also.
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 Posted 08/09/2017  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add headlessone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have a set in hand. Flashing on mine as well. But they could be tabs, I guess. In addition, there a plating defects--looks like smudging. Haven't removed from case but pretty sure. Not good.
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I see that on mine too (tabs) - just thought they were tabs. Never thought of it as a defect. Everything else looks fine though.
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 Posted 08/09/2017  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add headlessone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Smudge-like defects were smudges after all, not plating issues. However, all the coins on the bottom tier had various levels of filth, ranging from very apparent on the nickel to remove from case and peer closely at to discern. Two of the four on the bottom (nickel, penny, I think) also were glooby on the obverse. Ugh. But I'm happily messing around with them so all is ok.
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It looks like these tabs were part of the manufacturing process for sure. Note on the $20.00, the 50 cent piece and the dollar at the 12:00 there is a tab on all 3. The $20.00 and 50 cent have tabs at 4:00 and 8:00, 120 degrees apart. On the bottom row the penny is a very good example with tab at 6:00 and 10:00 but what looks like a hook at 2:00. The nickel looks like it has them at 10:00 and 2:00, but the others don't show any.
If they were meant to be tabs, they should be much more obvious on all stations. Either way its bad. If they were meant to be there, they failed, if not meant to be there then they failed as well by not making sure the flash was removed. Dime and quarter holes look good, the others don't. The automated de-flashing tool needed some adjustment. 2 of 7 holes good.

Still better than the new gold kilo mule, 4 of 10.

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 Posted 08/09/2017  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add headlessone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pics are needed (sorry), but the extra plastic appears to be columnated, intended to support the coin in addition to the rim of the coin slot. The coins only come out one way. That said, my opinion is based only on the removal of a single coin.
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I don't think these were meant to be there... not all slots have them and as mentioned, the coins can only come out one way. They cannot be anti-rotation features because none of my previous sets ever had any coins rotating.

If anyone has ever tried to pop the coins out of these inserts would know it is virtually impossible. You have to apply significant pressure.

This and the foggy lens just make me wonder what's happening at the RCM.
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My Rep just told me to return the set that it is a flaw.
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Looking on the magnified picture, I would worry about of contact of the plastic with the rim of the raw silver coin.
Won't it directly leads to the "oxidized"-like areas on the coin?

They've should do this set to be a bit outstanding, be encapsulating the coins, like done on the fractional sets.
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Silveroid, do you think removing the coins from the set, cutting the flash away and reinstalling the coins is a good fix? I'm not sure if you feel the flash will cause discolouration to the silver or not, perhaps you could say again another way?
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Just return the set fir a new one.
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 Posted 08/11/2017  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My set has them as well - if they were intended to keep the coins from being rotated they should have placed them in straight to begin with. A couple of my coins aren't exactly aligned and my goose is diving slightly (not an error - just poor placement in the case)!
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Silveroid, do you think removing the coins from the set, cutting the flash away and reinstalling the coins is a good fix?


have no idea :)

I wouldn't do this anyway.
better similar to SherwoodDavid - just to return it to RCM and try the luck with another set.
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ummm...is the "coin"ok?
I know the mint has QC but can they really be responsible for 3rd party packaging ?
The product they made is perfect right?
If you made a product at your factory and used some other company to make the bags or boxes for your product....and the melted seams on the bag were totally fine but not perfectly straight.. you would still use them to package your product right...because you paid for them and you made an agreement with the manufacturer...

you want the mint to bear the cost of all the returns for imperfect packaging but the coin is fine....thanks for raising the price of future coins......Its not like the packaging is terrible...come on is the coin hobby about perfect boxes and bags now too is it? And yes I realize these are not inexpensive items.. Discuss

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