Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Is This A Byzantine Coin?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 2,818Next Topic
Page: of 2
New Member

Canada
6 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2017  11:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mmartin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello All,

This is my first post and I'm wondering if anyone can help me identify this coin.

Is-This-A-Byzantine-Coin?
Is-This-A-Byzantine-Coin?

Thanks,
Matt
Rest in Peace
moxking's Avatar
United States
17900 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2017  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Although I'm nowhere near my books I have had one very similar to this. I'm sure once your post is up a bit, you will get a more precise answer.
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2017  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community

The legend on the reverse is for Leo VI 886-912 AD, but this is not a coin. I believe this is some type of seal. Is the material lead or bronze? From the pictures it appears to be lead to me. What is the size and weight of the piece?

New Member
Canada
6 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2017  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmartin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had originally thought it was seal as well, as it is rather heavy for it's size. This may explain why I have not be able to find a match.
It's roughly the size of a quarter and well worn, so it may have been a bit bigger. It's a soft metal to be sure but I had thought a lead seal would become brittle in time.

A seal could be even more interesting.
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2017  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The piece looks old, but it could also be a modern fantasy piece. There isn't a lot of information about Byzantine seals available. So it's difficult to say for sure.
New Member
Canada
6 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2017  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmartin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I reached out to Dumbarton Oaks a few times to determine if this was in fact a seal however no one responded.

https://www.doaks.org/resources/seals

Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2017  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've also checked a few of the limited resources available with no luck.
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2017  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The closer I look at this piece the more I think it's a modern reproduction, made to look like it has some age.
Moderator
Learn More...
Spence's Avatar
United States
34418 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2017  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with @echizento that despite the rev inscription, this piece doesn't fit with the coins of Leo VI. Specifically, the cross barby is not found on the coins of Leo VI.

Of course, I don't know anything about Byzantine lead seals...
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
Valued Member
svnhson's Avatar
United States
102 Posts
 Posted 08/14/2017  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svnhson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is genuine, it could also be a religious medallion. Can you tell what metal it is?
New Member
Canada
6 Posts
 Posted 08/14/2017  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmartin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the item is made of lead as it's a soft metal, but I can not say for sure.
New Member
Canada
6 Posts
 Posted 08/14/2017  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmartin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone know how I can get the inscription translated?
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 08/14/2017  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LEON ENOECO BASILEVS ROMEON. "Leo by the Grace of God King of the Romans".
Valued Member
arnoldoe's Avatar
Canada
266 Posts
 Posted 08/14/2017  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Edited by arnoldoe
08/14/2017 6:11 pm
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 08/14/2017  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad this turned out to be a genuine piece. Learn something new everyday.
Moderator
Learn More...
Spence's Avatar
United States
34418 Posts
 Posted 08/14/2017  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Learn something new everyday.


I agree--thanks to @arnoldoe for figuring out the attribution!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
  Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 2,818Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.43 seconds to rattle this change. Forums