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1857 Flying Eagle 1c W/ D.s. Parker Counterstamp-Uncirculated!

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I recently purchased this beautiful maverick and haven't had much luck narrowing down who D. S. Parker might have been as it was a fairly common name. I found it very strange that this coin survived so well and was still MS-62. Am I wrong to assume this was most likely a gift to the named person? Also how would I even go about pricing a piece like this? I'm tempted to just let it go to auction and see what interest it sparks.
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I really don't think this is an actual counterstamp as it is too small and the letters are perfect. Maybe a modern day laser or CNC machine of some sort and that was the operator? Just a thought.
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This maverick appears to be the only one listed by Brunk. Parker is a very common name, and Brunk lists many with that surname. My guess is that this was a personal piece as opposed to being a merchant issue, intended to advertise goods or services. Otherwise, more specimens would likely have surfaced by now. This counterstamp was likely applied in 1857-58.

There was a Daniel S. Parker, listed in the 1862 Boston Directory, then working in some capacity at the "F.H. Market" which I believe translates to Faneuil Hall Market. There was a photographer by the name of David S. Parker, working in the Cincinnati and Covington area in 1860. These are but two possibilities. Doing a cursory search of nineteenth century directories and other references, I found a number of listings for "Parker, D.S."

The numismatic value of this piece exceeds the exonumia value. It would be a great coin to have in a type set of U.S. counterstamps. IMHO, the host coin is MS-64 or better.
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I was hoping for Peter Parker.
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I really don't think this is an actual counterstamp as it is too small and the letters are perfect.


Apparently, you've not much studied counterstamps. A great many silversmiths, watchmakers and other fine craftsmen used counterstamps with fonts smaller than those on the OP's coin. NGC says it's a counterstamp, and, that surely does appear to be the case.

Here's an even smaller-lettered stamp that was used by Randall H. Cashell. He's listed in the 1807 Philadelphia Directory as a goldsmith and jeweler at 23 North 2nd St. A fine craftsman, he specialized in decorating sword blades and repairing firearms. Considering how early his mark is, note the size and artistry of his design. The host coin is a 1798 large cent ....

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Here's another counterstamp, issued by Isaac Schnaitman of Philadelphia in the 1830's. He made the first true bifocals and applied this stamp to his spectacles. The host coin is an 1814 large cent ....

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I am glad NGC graded it as problem free!
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It has definitely been fun to research. The original seller stated he was a dentist from Boston, MA. I have also discovered several Daniel S. Parkers who served the Union army in the civil war. I suppose it will be impossible to directly link it to anyone specifically! I did find one other 1857 that was counterstamped in the same spot with J.A. HARPER. I suppose if I could find those 2 names in close association with one another I could have a more valid argument on who they belong to! The other piece is not mine unfortunately! Thank you all for your opinions! Definitely not modern and I do appreciate how well done this was, the attention to detail really stands out and one of the reasons I had to have it!
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The similarity to the J.A. Harper counterstamp struck me, too. I have one of those on a FE cent in AU condition; and, positioned in the same spot. I also have one on a Two Cent Piece. There's a J.A. Harper stamp that's known on a shotgun, so he may have been a gunsmith. I've not as yet seen the gun mark to compare. There was a J.A. Harper in Lexington, KY, and he was an auction commission merchant. I'm hoping to someday attribute the Harper stamps, of which four have so far been recorded.
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That's amazing ExoGuy! I'm glad I know where that J.A. HARPER ended up. Let me know if you happen to see his name come up alongside a D.S. Parker and we can correlate the two as knowing each other and prove who they might have been!!
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@SeanRyan90 .... I'll be in touch, when and if I can make a connection. I have yet to get a pic on this thread of the Harper piece. I'm presently away at a show. Another, similar piece that comes to mind are the (P.L.?) Carpenter counterstamps. When I get around to it, I'll compare the lot. On occasion, the study of one c/s leads to a solution for another.
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Here's a P.L. CARPENTER c/s, up on ebay. While the positioning and host coin are the same, there's a use of all cap letters, being somewhat crudely cut ....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1857-PL-CAR...AOSwXYtYwgxi



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Fun numismatic mystery ... hopeful that you find the necessary clues to solve the riddle.
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Fun numismatic mystery ... hopeful that you find the necessary clues to solve the riddle.


Thanks for the encouragement, Nickelsearcher. It's taken me many years to attribute some counterstamps and but minutes for others. Hope I live long enough to peg these Parker, Harper & Carpenter pieces, I do!
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I finally got around to getting pics of my J.A. HARPER piece. It's not nearly as pleasing to look at as the op's D.S. Parker coin. It's value lies in the likelihood of it being a gunsmith's mark.


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I have the same 1857 J.A.HARPER Flying Eagle penny. I purchased it at a book store about 45 years ago.

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