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Here is an ugly 1712 French 15 deniers. Yet it appears in the RedBook, under French (American) colonial issues (minted at Metz).   What is your oldest colonial issue -- for an American, Asian, or African colony, minted in the homeland? Oldest wins. |
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Not sure if I understand your parameters. I have two coins that may fit your rules. One is a 1773 Virginia Half penny. This was struck here in the VA colony but authorized by the Crown. The other is actually considered a Conder Token but was widely circulated over it's British cousins because this was minted in Ireland. The colonists accepted this as coinage but rejected the British Tokens. Take whichever works well.   |
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Not sure if this would fully count, but you said oldest! Roman Empire Bronze Limes Denarius (Limes = "Limit, border") Julia Maesa, grandmother of Elagabalus 218-222 Rev: Juno   There is a bit of uncertainty about the one-off bronze denarii that could be the core of a counterfeit, but some are so common that they must have been official issues. It is generally agreed that the mint at Rome struck these coins to replace denarii at the limits of the empire, to avoid silver falling into enemy hands. They would have circulated normally, and would have been exchangeable for silver once back in the stable heartland. |
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As a student of Virginia history from a young age, I had never heard that these coins were minted in Virginia. I find at this site that Finally, on May 20, 1773 the Virginia Assembly passed legislation authorizing the Tower Mint in London to coin halfpence pursuant to the royal authorization. Soon five tons of halfpennys arrived in Richmond, where the local Treasurer, Robert C. Nicholas, in classic bureaucratic fashion, decided not to release them pending the receipt of a Royal Proclamation authorizing him to do so (Breen). A year later, when the desired Royal Proclamation did arrive the Revolution was about to erupt. http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_c...y_period.htmA coin minted in London for use in Virginia would certainly qualify. |
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05/04/2018 9:53 pm
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I was just going by Red Book which all it said was Crown authorized, didn't say when, where, what and how. Thanks for that tidbit, I had assumed wrong then about being coined here. Brits didn't let the lowly peasants do anything! |
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Steve, was wondering the same, wouldn't a "Barbarous" be considered a "colony?
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@finn, the key is that the colony must be: Quote:
American, Asian, or African I like your line of thinking though. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Roman Empire Bronze Limes Denarius (Limes = "Limit, border") Quote:
for an American, Asian, or African colony Where were the Limes? I have seen reference to the ones in Great Britain, and along the Rhine/Danube. |
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Netherlands East Indies, 1 duit, 1732 -- Minted in Dordrecht Netherlands by the United East India Company (VOC) for use in Indonesia (hopefully considered as part of Asia for this challenge):   |
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Seems like we never get to see that guy's portrait on CCF, eh @jbuck?  No colonials in my stash. Going have to watch.  |
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I had a token with Kennedy I meant to post for the last challenge (wooden half  ). If I understand the premise correctly, I've got nothing for this one. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
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I think my oldest would be this 10 cash piece from Madras (British India), 1808. It was minted at the Soho Mint in England:  |
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The Limes was literally the entire border of the Empire--Hadrian's wall, the Rhine river, the Danbue river, Syria, and North Africa.
Unfortunately, in the context of Elagabalus' reign, this probably would have been sent to what is now Bulgaria, as the rest of the empire was reasonably secure.
I'll have to see what else I have.
Is there a minimum distance requirement? I'm thinking one of my Greek coins might qualify.
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(hopefully considered as part of Asia for this challenge): Absolutely! Oceana (or whatever you call it) including Australia is part of Asia for this purpose. Quote:
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I'm thinking one of my Greek coins might qualify. I look forward to seeing it. However, I will note that the only portions of the Black Sea coastline that are not considered Europe are Georgia and Turkey east of the Dardenelles |
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