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Hungary -- 1 denar, 1131-1141:  
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Quote: Do you agree? @Spence Sorry, I just realized that a 1940 coin would be historically impossible.  I was simply going off of a translation of the date and my very limited knowledge of Hebrew and dating system. This is how I was told 5708 (1948) should appear:  From: http://creounity.com/apps/time_mach....php&lang=enBut, I'm sure the date can be conveyed in other ways. I'm still curious as I have used that site to successfully date many coins from Israel, but that one would have stumped me! 
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@pepactonius I was sure you had something! 
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The real reason is basically that they dropped the thousands digit and just dated the coin (the equivalent of) 708, presumably figuring that the thousands would be obvious to anyone who could read the date in the first place. (It's a surprisingly common thing - Spanish colonial cobs and pre-1700 Russian wire money dropped the thousands digit for much the same reason. Granted, those were different thousands digits...)
Note that the date on the coin is exactly the leftmost four symbols of the date given by the applet - the remaining two symbols correspond to the dropped thousands. (The applet knows this and would probably have converted it correctly on the "direct conversion" side anyway.)
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Quote: The real reason is basically that they dropped the thousands digit and just dated the coin (the equivalent of) 708 This is for me:  I knew that was the case for some coins, but totally forgot (even though the page I linked to states that very thing). Quote: Note that the date on the coin is exactly the leftmost four symbols of the date given by the applet - the remaining two symbols correspond to the dropped thousands. (The applet knows this and would probably have converted it correctly on the "direct conversion" side anyway.) Thanks for setting me straight on this.  I was entering characters in reverse order as they appear and was getting no results with direct conversion...another  for me.  
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Okay, so the deadline has passed and it is time to declare a winner. Because of some blurred lines, I had to do a little research (not much  ). I was primarily concerned with the first coin Finn posted: Quote: Left coin is an early Chinese Ban Liang, from the late Qin or very early Han dynasty, 221-187 BC, within a few decades of the unification of China. After a little reading, I have decided that the coin fits the lenient criteria for the challenge. The Qin dynasty was the beginning of unification and it was essentially realized during the Han dynasty. Most modern Chinese people identify as Han and the name "China" may be derived from "Qin" (there are other hypotheses). So, overall, I can't say that the coin is anything but Chinese. @Finn235 The ball is in your court!
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Quote: @Finn235
The ball is in your court!
Congratulations!  Finn235 7:57 a.m. Monday, November 12, 2018 (EST) Time in Montreal, QC
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Congratulations! 
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Congrats Finn!
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507
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Thanks guys! Sorry for the delay; family's getting geared up for the holidays! Anyway, I don't think I have posted a specifically ancient challenge coin, so lemme break out the big guns here: Roman Republic Lucius Marcius Philippus, moneyer 56 BC AR Denarius Obv: Head of Ancus Marcius, 4th King of Rome, ANCVS below, lituus behind Rev: Horseman galloping down aqueduct, Plant/flower below, PHILIPPVS behind, AQVA MAR within arches (MAR ligate) Crawford 425  Lucius Marcius Philippus was the stepfather of Octavian, better known as Augustus. He remained famously neutral during the civil wars of both Julius Caesar and the Second Triumvirate. He claimed lineage stretching back to the semi-mythical Kings of Rome. Challenge criteria: Silver - 1 pt Denarius denomination - 2 pt Any other silver denomination 17-19mm and 2.5-4.5g - 1 pt Coin issued by a relative of a very famous person - 1 pt Location: Italy - 1 pt Pre-1945 Italy or Italian State - 1 pt Rome - 1 pt Roman Republic - 1 pt (max 4 points) Age: 1-100 years - 1 pt 101-250 years - 2 pt 250-500 years - 3 pt 500-1500 years - 4 pt 1500+ years - 5 pt Exactly 2074 years - 6 pt Imagery: Posthumous portrait of a king or ruler - 1 pt Lituus or bishop's staff - 1 pt Horse - 1 pt Rider - 1 pt Bridge, arch, etc - 1 pt Aqueduct - 2 pt Plant or flower - 1 pt Tie breaker - Oldest coin in XF or better! Should be enough challenge without being too difficult! 
Edited by Finn235 11/13/2018 12:55 am
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I think I may be able to get 12 points for a coin I haven't photographed yet. It is in no way pretty, but fits a good bit of the criteria. 
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Edited by spru 11/13/2018 02:12 am
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1902 Crown  5 points Silver (1) 116 years (2) Horse (1) Rider(1)
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