Some Coin Dealers Are As Stubborn As They Are Dumb.

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Sheldon Overton Baby Valued Member United States 179 Posts	Posted 08/17/2017 11:11 pm http://www.ebay.com/itm/1785-Africa....m1438.l2649 This is not an African Head. Very clearly not. Multiple, very obvious issues that show it is not. I have explained to the dealer twice how I can easily spot it is not one. They reply they have examined it and it is an African Head. No it is not. Why get defensive about it? Report this Post to the Staff

Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 12:59 am Two words....Beverly Hills. Got it!? Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1657 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 05:08 am Clearly not an African head. Probably going by the RedBook and don't realize how many different varieties there actually are! Report this Post to the Staff
RoyCoinBoy Pillar of the Community United States 1609 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 07:32 am Why be defensive? Because " I did the research that I think is necessary *NOT* you!! Na, na, na na na!!" Edited by RoyCoinBoy 08/18/2017 07:38 am Report this Post to the Staff
kanga Pillar of the Community United States 5825 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 08:21 am Maybe the dealer bought it as an African Head and doesn't want to take the $ loss because it isn't. (I don't know ANYTHING about those coins; my thought is just a WAG.) Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 10:16 am Variety identification requires the books and the time. Some dealers simply don't take the time to determine the truth. The same for the bidders who bid without their own research. These dealers are worth watching. I've bought scarce mint marked coins listed with no indication of a MM, proofs that were listed as business strikes, and a few good old overdates not listed as such. Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 10:18 am I'd have to agree, after looking at an African Head the coin in the ebay sale definitely isn't one. Doesn't match obv 4.1 or 4.2 So then the question becomes so what is it? I don't do these so I don't know. Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1657 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 6:24 pm It looks to me to be a 5-F.5, I think it is about an R4. Actually quite a bit rarer than an African Head but not as much in demand. Report this Post to the Staff
paralyse Bedrock of the Community United States 12057 Posts	Posted 08/18/2017 9:30 pm This particular seller has sold a large volume of early copper in the last year, presumably purchased via an estate sale or some other means, as he does not appear to be a collector himself. Some of the prices have been ridiculous, others ludicrous, and a few that are "merely" high. I have seen a few coins with attractive pricing but buying colonials and early copper on photos alone is a risky endeavor. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis Report this Post to the Staff
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