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Goosed New Member United Kingdom 5 Posts	Posted 08/19/2017 08:17 am The most I have been told is that this is an ancient persian coin but any further information would be appreciated Report this Post to the Staff

Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 08/19/2017 09:43 am I certainly could be wrong, but I suspect it's a modern tourist fake. Based on the Aramaic (?...actually looks like a Greek omega too) legend to the left of the warrior, I wonder if it may be loosely referencing a Tarsos, Cilicia issue, perhaps of Datames or Pharnabazos, like at the links. https://www.cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=324521 https://www.cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=43121 https://www.cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=96794 https://www.cNGCoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=222668 Edited by Kamnaskires 08/19/2017 09:57 am Report this Post to the Staff
UltraRant Pillar of the Community Norway 1358 Posts	Posted 08/19/2017 11:21 am It looks a lot like the kind of token that I encounter often at tourist souvenir stalls in the Mediterranean area, preferably next to historical sites. My knowledge of ancient coins is a it limited, but good enough to have my suspicions. I have a few ancient Persian coins and they don't look like this at all. Perhaps you can share a bit more on how you got this coin? Report this Post to the Staff
Goosed New Member United Kingdom 5 Posts	Posted 08/19/2017 11:35 am It belongs to a friend who was given it by a gentleman who is bow in his late 70s and is iranian by birth. It was Apparently he was given /acquired it around the time of the iranian revolution in the late 70s early 80s when he then had to flee the country .....the story goes that it belonged to a collector and was taken in liue of a debt. Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 08/19/2017 12:00 pm The stories attached to these tourist fakes are always elaborate. True or false this item is worth a few cents for its metal value. If there is a family attachment to the piece it could be enjoyed for that reason. Report this Post to the Staff
UltraRant Pillar of the Community Norway 1358 Posts	Posted 08/19/2017 2:58 pm That's indeed a spectacular story, and it raises a few questions, like why was it so important to get this coin out of Iran around the revolution and why did the man give your friend such a valuable coin... I've checked my sources for history of Persian coins and couldn't find anything that even remotely looks like this piece. Given the design of the helmet I guess it's more inspired by more Mediterranean cultures in nowadays Greece or Turkey. That still doesn't make sense with the other side of the coin then, though: the two sides don't really seem to match in look and culture. I'd also expect that, if it was genuine, that it'd have been made of silver or gold. Somehow this doesn't seem to be it. The look and shine doesn't seem to match. But please feel free to ask a local coin shop or jeweler if my assumption is right, to be sure. And finally, there seems to be a suspicious amount of dark on the lower parts of the coin. artificially adding some blackening there is a known way to make a coin look 'old'. Our 'friends' in China use it a lot on their fakes. So I agree with moxking. If this has emotional value then I'd keep it for that reason. Also, please keep in mind that I'm making a diagnosis based on two pictures and my knowledge of this field. I might be proven wrong by someone with more expertise here, so don't just throw it away. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34441 Posts	Posted 08/19/2017 3:29 pm @goosed, first welcome to CCF. Second, I wonder if you could also post a couple pics of the edge of this piece? I agree that this looks like a modern fake, but seeing the edge might help confirm one way or the other. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Goosed New Member United Kingdom 5 Posts	Posted 08/21/2017 03:30 am Thank you for your comments I will try to get some additional pictures showing the edges Report this Post to the Staff
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