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Edited by Imthealphaomega
08/27/2017 2:04 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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MS details scratched. Shame as it is otherwise very nice with a clean cheek. This being the most common of dates, why acquire such a problem coin?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
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Love the toning on the coin, is the scratch on the holder?
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Pillar of the Community
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It's a strike through. If you tilt it on the side it looks like square root symbol. It's in a ms holder, it's not details. There was probably a bit of metal that got stuck and was struck through hence the weird looking mark on the cheek. Most scratches are not like this, hence my assumption it's a strike through error, same opinion came from coin197 from whom I got it from.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like it was an intentional scratch, rather than accidental. Graffiti seems more likely than strike through foreign matter. In any event it is a problem coin.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Looks like it was an intentional scratch, rather than accidental. Graffiti seems more likely than strike through foreign matter. In any event it is a problem coin.
Or it's not; ANACS wasn't making many mistakes back in that original generation of holder which said "Official ANA Grade." |
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Whatever it is, I'd just leave it be.
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I will get more opinions down the line. Frog I like all my Morgan's in PCGS holders, on occasion I will buy NGC if I like it. I really believe this coin is undergraded by 2 points at minimum. The cheek is mark free minus the strike through mark by the nose. I will bring it to my dealer next time I see him and see what his opinion is. The question is do I play the safe gamble and try crossover or do I crack it out and send it in raw. Decisions decisions.
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Quote:Or it's not; ANACS wasn't making many mistakes back in that original generation of holder which said "Official ANA Grade." Even if it is a mint strike through and ANACS was right, it is still a problem that there is a scar running down the length of Liberty's face. I don't know that this feature makes the coin any more attractive. If I had this in a straight graded holder, I would not crack it out to try to "upgrade" it. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
08/27/2017 4:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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FYI it is graded ANA dmpl 62 |
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United States
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I'd leave it as is. I enjoy having a few of the old small ANACS holders. They've always sold for good prices when I've parted with one.
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My grade is MS 63 PL, possibly DMPL (you can't really tell from pictures) -- struck through wire obverse, scarce for such, and exceptionally scarce in a small ANA slab. The toning is very attractive. Cracking this coin out would be highly detrimental to its value, regardless of the fact that I think NGC or PCGS would give it 64 PL/DMPL all day long. Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Aside from the struck-through area, the cheek looks extremely clean. And with it being an error, I would think to take that mark out of consideration when determining the grade, meaning I would think MS-65. And either PL or DMPL—I cannot tell which from those pictures (or really any pictures).  |
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With that scratch I just don't see this getting anything other than a details grade, unless they see it as a struck through fiber.
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