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louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1306 Posts	Posted 08/29/2017 02:44 am Just wondering. I deal in a lot of Kyzikos Lion / Boar Tuna Fish coins or fractions (Yes they were probably the same breed we love so much today... so why not just call them Tuna and celebrate humans documented love of Tuna).... Anyway, the diobol to the hemiobol are all about the same size image. Just a lot thinner. Got to wonder how many actual dies they used for all those denominations and were they just striking lighter flans. The tetarmorion or like 0.15 gram coin is smaller in image I know that. Wonder if anyone ever looked into this. And back to the tuna, if you ever look at how Mayonnaise is made it's like 100% oil and one egg white whipped..... so those ancient people had a lot of olive oil which thus pretty much Mayo, a lot of tuna, and we know they had bread. Have we always been eating tuna fish sandwiches? Edited by louisvillekyshop 08/29/2017 02:47 am Report this Post to the Staff

Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 08/29/2017 07:12 am The Antikythera Mechanism was actually just a crank-operated Tuna can opener. Classical Greek coinage is actually just about the only ancients category I haven't dabbled in, so I am not too familiar, but interested to know! Can you post a side by side to illustrate what you are talking avout? Report this Post to the Staff
DavidUK Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2624 Posts	Posted 08/29/2017 09:00 am I love the classical Greek stuff yet having seen tables with the weights of ancient coinage still get confused with the small denominations (and constantly see misattributions on Vcoins posting half-siglos as siglos or hemi-obols as tartamorions etc) No idea how to answer the question though, I cant see two denominations being punched by the same die on different thickness flans - that would be too confusing to spend surely? Actually maybe I can see that... has anyone got both a Byzantion Siglos and half siglos (bull on dolphin/incuse wind sail) when compared are they struck off the same die and why would they have exactly the same dedign for two different denomonations? Edited by DavidUK 08/29/2017 09:05 am Report this Post to the Staff
louisvillekyshop CCF Advertiser United States 1306 Posts	Posted 09/04/2017 11:25 pm Finn and David; So sorry I never responded to this. Here goes. Notice all the following are 9 mm. Now I am not saying that these particular 3 coins are the same die. But I am suggesting the same die may have been used for the hemiobol, obol, and diobol and the flans were just different weights. Of course I know this is debatable. Diobol 9 mm, 1.28 grams https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=808401 Obol 9 mm, 0.78 grams https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1371514 Hemiobol 9 mm, 0.40 grams https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1534211 Edited by louisvillekyshop 09/04/2017 11:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DavidUK Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2624 Posts	Posted 09/05/2017 03:56 am I think you prove your point. Which makes me think whether they employed a set of scales for every transaction? It seems more logical to use a deferent design on each denomination so you know which is which. If you had a small bag full of these coins... all 9mm and different weights it seems like a headache. Report this Post to the Staff
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