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Seems To Me Coins From Australia Are More Expensive Than British ? Why?

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 Posted 08/29/2017  08:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rexlucky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Seems to me coins from australia are more expensive than british ? Why?
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 Posted 08/29/2017  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Embarrassingly, I can't really answer that question.
I haven't seriously collected Australian coins for 30 years or more. In my collection of World coins ancient to modern, Australian coins form only a minor part.

The influence of British history extends over a much wider part of the World, and much further back in time. This influence is reflected in the nature of my collection.

There are far more American coins in my collection than Australian. That is due to the influence of the amount of time I spend here in the CCF.
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I am going to hazard a guess...

Population + disposable wealth.

Thinking about it there are a lot of Americans chasing American coins and they command the highest prices.

There are somewhat less people chasing British and still fewer chasing Australian.

Obviously supply is the other side of the coin but in terms of demand it seems logical that USA>UK>Australia
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What are some examples?

If we are talking "classic" (40s and earlier?) Aussie coins, I bet it may have something to do with:
1) Not a lot struck because Australia is not densely populated.
2) Not a lot saved because people actually used them until they were worn.
3) Lots more population now with disposable income who want more coins than are available.

Conversely, I get the impression that coin collecting was much more popular in the UK, at least back to the late 19th century. That means lots more supply to meet the demand.
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Quite right on your first 3 points, but on your last, collecting interest was not high on the UK mint's priority list.
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Maybe becuz the Brits could never turn a buck...Australia and America were started as a penal colonies for thieves and crooks wasn't they? That's why US politicians are so good at stealing it!

This may "pick a feet" as you Scots say....



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High grade early Australian trade/merchant tokens are both very scarce and very expensive in many cases.

The Sydney Mint opened in 1855 as a branch of The Royal Mint, followed by Melbourne & Perth, but AFAIK, the first Commonwealth coins were not struck until 1910 or so (i.e. those with reverses unique to Australia); prior to that I think the circulating coinage was mostly British, although an Aussie numismatist might be able to verify that.

In 1921, the Melbourne mint struck 7.3m of threepence, the highest mintage for that series of 3d; by contrast, Britain only struck 8m in the same denomination. However, a mid-range Uncirculated (MS63) 1921 3d can be had for under $40, while the same coin, but Australian, is a $200+ coin (USD.) This implies that there are other factors besides mintage that affect prices, most likely condition scarcity as a function of circulation.
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Perhaps also due to Australian coinage being 92.5% till the mid-1940s as opposed the GB coins debased to 50% in 1920?
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@ Mendelman got it right...about Aussie silver coinage continued to be 92.5% till end of Second World War.

Plus when Australia changed over to dollar and cent system, the Government melted majority of silver coins. This may be why the prices are higher for Aussie coins than British coins.

It is my understanding that mintage of many pre-decimal coins were somewhat lower than they should be for Australia (they do not mint enough coins in some years).

I would have to concur with Finn235 on his three points.

During the Second World War, Australia could not mint more coins so they asked the USA to mint silver coins for them which was duly delivered. After the War, Australia had to melt silver coins to pay back to the USA for those silver coins. I think it was in mid-1950s.

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