1960 Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC With Extra Memorial On Reverse

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tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 08:59 am I bought a fair-sized lot of 1960 cents and am pretty much certain they are from an original mint bag. Die markers show lots of coins from a certain few dies so not a random assortment and all have almost exactly the same condition and toning. So, what's with this coin? The obvious damage to the reverse is a memorial design and is incuse. I am quick to call such a thing normal damage from one coin getting vised or hammered onto another coin, but from a mint bag? Here is a close up to show the imprinted design. So to figure things out I wanted to know if it were the typical "reversed" memorial which would be another coin hitting it and leaving an impression. This makes sense as the coin is strongly convex on the obvserse (how you get a convex coin is a different question). An overlay shows that it is a reversed memorial. So that would be my question, how would something like this occur to end up in a mint bag? Possibly a second coin sitting on the first one and struck a second time? Seems like a stretch but where else in the process could something be hit hard enough to bend it convex and leave that mark? And all that would be a mystery, but then a second one popped up. This coin is strongly concave on the obverse (opposite of the first coin) so that mark on the memorial on this coin is well below rim level. While less strong than the first coin, what jumped out at me was that the imprint is in almost exactly the same spot and rotational degree. Note the pillar tops (on stairs and column 10) and the lower left of the memorial nicking the top of the N in ONE. Just curious if anyone has an idea that would make sense here, as I really don't know what is going on to make these come out this way. Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 09:04 am All you have to do is drop the bag once, and the lower coins can receive such an impression. The fact that the anomalies are incuse and on the higher points of the coin are proof positive that it could not have happened during the strike, where the lowest features on the coin - the fields - are the highest features on the die. The concavity of the reverse on the second coin - pretty cool, by the way, and nicely imaged - limited the amount of damage caused by the impact. Report this Post to the Staff
Chase007 Pillar of the Community United States 7516 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 10:09 am I agree with SD, explanation makes perfect sense. Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 10:53 am even coins in a mint bag get plenty of smacks moving from one place to another. That's the reason so many mint state coins grade in the MS-60 to 62 range. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74662 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 1:19 pm Unfortunately, it's bad PMD. So the grade goes down a lot like MS62 or NS60. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 2:52 pm There are times where coins arent ejected properly and consequently get restruck. Two scenarios are those that jam the works, feeder fingers, collars, those coins are generally damaged DOA and rejected through sorting. Second is actual restriking two planchet due to ejection failures. Because of the high hydraulic pressures, a very definite imprint over the entire coin is made, this generally results in a die cap formation. Yours hasn't been impressed with but perhaps 100-200ft/lbs of force, a fraction of a die press. Only the most high-high points were transferred. It is actually about the amount a standard workbench vise will apply before the handle twists......how do you think I know so much about Little Johnnie in the Garage... Edited by Crazyb0 09/12/2017 2:56 pm Report this Post to the Staff
tropicalbats Pillar of the Community United States 6116 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 8:24 pm Thanks everyone for the good comments. Quite helpful as always! Report this Post to the Staff
Mac1971 Valued Member United States 168 Posts	Posted 09/12/2017 9:44 pm Cool coin, thanks for showing it and also the other guys for teaching. Report this Post to the Staff
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1960 LMC With Extra Memorial On Reverse