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(Updated)1944 S Penny, Is That A Second Mouth On Lincoln?

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I'm not sure what to think of this. Is it a die crack? is it a doubling of Lincoln's mouth? I need the experts help on this one.
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It looks like etheir a Die Crack or Lamination error.
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 Posted 09/17/2017  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tootallious to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it appears to me that the curves and valleys follow that of his mouth almost, but not quite, like a second mouth.
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Kinda does look like a second mouth. I think a minor Lamination error caused this.
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I'd be very interested in seeing a full obverse photo of that coin. Looks unusual.
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bare with me gentlemen, trying to get the camera working.
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I apologize for the wait. here are a few more pics of it.
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I'm using a USB microscope camera that will not allow me to take pictures of coins as a whole and dslr cameras are extremely expensive.
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That is a wild looking cent! He looks like the Joker. I guess it could be a lamination issue, but can't say for sure. I might say it was intentional or a very well-placed hit?
There are others on the site who will give you a definitive answer. Thanks for the extra pics.

Edit: by the way; you can use your USB to take full coin pictures. Put it on an elevated surface and refocus. But, these pics showed the important parts.
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I tried every option and elevation possible. I can get the entire coin in the picture but it will not focus :-( it is also an old one and I'm researching the best one out there that will take full pics of coins without killing my bank account and also work with windows 10.
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I have the Celestron scope that Best Buy sells for $45. It will focus at the proper height for full pics. It doesn't have an adjustable light source, though. That would be desirable at the distance needed for full pictures.
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From your second pic, it looks more like the start of a lamination.
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thank you! I'm beginning to think lamination as well. Bummer, thought maybe a new variety like maybe the Joker as Bump111 had said. :-)and Bump111, thank you for the microscope info! I'll look into it.
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Although this is a delamination, it is absolutely cool. It's so strange looking that I'm sure you could get a few bucks for it.
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I'm glad everyone enjoyed it :-)
hmmm, I never thought about selling it.
ummm, offers anyone? on a more serious note I'm going to put it a 2x2 and save it for my grandchildren. Thank you everyone!!



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