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1853 Arrows And Rays Seated Half Dollar Value, Grade Vs TPG

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Ive posted this one a long time ago, but I wanted to get some opinions on the grade and value. I spent some time looking at the surfaces, and noticed some die breaks around the obverse. The streaks may have been caused during the minting process? Not sure but looking forward to hearing all comments. Thanks as always!


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Very light circulation rub, a 55, or perhaps even a 58 from ANACS.

I'm really picky about not buying coins that have anything that grabs my attention. In this instance, those black streaks are really distracting.

At first I thought rubber bands, but looking closer all the lines are parallel but they don't necessarily affect the high points.

So I can't think of a reason why they are there.
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I don't care for the "streaks", but...I would give it a AU53. Is that a scratch across the Phrygian cap?
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Thanks all! What would be a value youd assign to this coin? Given its condition and any detracting features?
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AU-53 here as well. I wouldn't hazard a value given the obverse issues.
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Sorry, Steelers, but as you likely know, the longer someone learns and collects, the less likely they are to buy problem coins. Although this is AU by anyone's standards I wouldn't hazard a guess.

Likely best sold as a no reserve .99 cent start and hopes of having enough newer buyers think they can steal it.
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Image courtesy of Heritage, one of a few I found with similar stain patterns. Must have been an ongoing planchet problem with this issue. PCGS MS62:

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I don't recall ever seeing streaks like that so I'm not sure what cause them.
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AU-53.
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Sorry forgot to post the grade. And thank you super dave for your research! Very similar issue to this coin. I think this was undergraded despite the streaks
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