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skelly423 Valued Member Canada 187 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 10:20 am I have attached photos of two coins, both of which were graded by ICCS many years ago. One is graded SP-64 Red, the other MS-64 Red Cameo. To my naked eye, I see very little difference between the two coins. Can you tell which is the MC, and which is the SP? Are there any obvious markers I can use to differentiate the specimen from the business strike? Is this a case where ICCS mis-attributed a coin as Mint State? Report this Post to the Staff

ace_ftw Pillar of the Community Canada 1747 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 10:35 am I would think that we would need much larger and more focused images to help sort this out. Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 2:11 pm That 1950 has a completely doubled reverse..I hope that ICCS got that detail at least right.. Report this Post to the Staff
skelly423 Valued Member Canada 187 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 3:09 pm I'm limited by my available technology, but here is another set of pictures for each coin 1948 1950 Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10458 Posts	Posted 09/22/2017 11:16 pm Look closer... especially at the rims... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9864 Posts	Posted 09/23/2017 01:16 am I would say that ICCS gave the 1950 the grade of SP64 and the 1948 got MS64cameo. The 1950 does not appear to be a cameo coin. The 1948 is A to denticle and according to Charlton's the specimen strike for that year should be A between denticles. I can't tell from those pics if ICCS got it right. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 09/23/2017 01:25 am Report this Post to the Staff
thedollarman Pillar of the Community Canada 4911 Posts	Posted 09/23/2017 02:12 am i won't comment a guess as I recognize the specimen piece should be interesting to see what people say though Feel free to call me Will. Report this Post to the Staff
doubleeagle59 Pillar of the Community Canada 2495 Posts	Posted 09/23/2017 08:03 am I'm not strong on SP coins as my knowledge is very limited, so I'll say the 1948 is the SP. Report this Post to the Staff
skelly423 Valued Member Canada 187 Posts	Posted 09/24/2017 08:57 am The 1950 is indeed the specimen. I posted because the 1948 is unlike any George VI business strike I've owned. In hand it is basically indistinguishable from the 1950; same eye appeal, same coloring, same surfaces. Even if it's not a Specimen, it's a one-of-a-kind appearance Report this Post to the Staff
1947ML New Member Canada 39 Posts	Posted 09/24/2017 9:54 pm To me ,, I would have to say the 1950 is Specimen, the gratia relief looks crisp. Report this Post to the Staff
ace_ftw Pillar of the Community Canada 1747 Posts	Posted 09/25/2017 10:38 am I am not sure about the quality control of this time era, but both of these coins seem to be slightly struck on mis-aligned dies, the 48 is more pronounced. The 50 also (to me shows) rim dings, this may be just in the pictures. Report this Post to the Staff
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