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Brass 1639 Double Tournier Information?

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 Posted 09/19/2017  1:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've recently acquired a group of 17th century small copper coins, all seeming to be of the New France variety. This one was in with them and is clearly brass. It's rough. Can you give me any information on it? Thanks!
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Brass-1639-Double-Tournier-Information?
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09/19/2017 3:09 pm
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 Posted 09/20/2017  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No replies. Guess this one will remain a question mark.
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 Posted 09/20/2017  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Older copper and brass coins can tone in unusual colours. I think that this could be copper or brass, but I woul dbet that it is a copper coin with unusual toning/corrosion. XRF analysis would tell you for sure.
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Principality of Sedan, Frederic-Maurice. 2 deniers 1639.
Looks like the "c2" variety here: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces54057.html

I think the quality controls just were lower for those issues; IIRC, my own (much better) example of this type is of fairly similar color.
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Thanks for the info! The coin is definitely brass. I just hadn't seen one before.
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One further comment that I didn't think of immediately: to the best of my knowledge, aside from one insanely rare variety (as in only known from 1 or 2 examples, IIRC), there was no 17th century small copper issued for New France.

As such, I suspect that the rest of your coins are either also regular French (royal or feudal), or not 17th century.
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