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Help Identify... Possibly Greek? | Irish Conder Token

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I cannot identify this coin, though some legends are visible. I thought that it may be Greek, since the bird on one side is similar to that on early Greek coins, but the date looks like 180? And I can't find any Greek coins dated that early. Above the bird I can make out part of a word HANGE
On the back, I can make out AT ODO BANK but I thnk some of the leter from the middle word are missing. Along the bottom it says ENNISCOR, again some letters probably missing.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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It can't be Greek. The classical Greek alphabet doesn't have letters shaped like S, C or G.

It's actually a token. Specifically, an Irish "Conder token", from Enniscorthy, county Wexford. There are apparently a dozen varieties known of this token, listed in the Dalton and Hamer book of Conder tokens as Wexford numbers 5 through to 16.

And no, I didn't know this beforehand; I'm no Conder expert. I don't even have a proper D&H book. I found This site with an example of one of these tokens,second from bottom, by typing '"payable at" bank phoenix token' into Google.

In case the Doty reference link dies at some stage in the future, here's what your token should read like:

Obverse: Phoenix over RW cipher, FOR CHANGE above, the date 1800 below.

Reverse: text only: PAYABLE / AT / WOODCOCK'S / BANK / ENNISCORTHY.

A pity yours is so badly beat up; Dr. Doty's example is described as "RARE" and sold for $95.

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Hey, thanks for the info! I could drive myself crazy trying to figure out some of these beat up pieces.
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