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ID Help: Liberty Cap Cents & 1864 2-Cent Small Motto

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 Posted 09/29/2017  01:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kfseadog to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
New acquisitions of several beat up coins, but my first Liberty Cap Large Cents, so I'm quite happy with them. They are most likely too far gone, but if any of you savants can weigh in on a date or Sheldon number, I'd be much obliged (and impressed!)

This first one is a thin planchet. I won't bother uploading a photo of the reverse, nothing is recognizable.
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This second one has a lettered edge.
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This last one is an 1864 2-Cent piece. I purchased it thinking it might be the small motto variety, but not quite sure even now that I have it in hand.

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 Posted 09/29/2017  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is either a 1795 or 96, can't see enough to tell more.

The second on is a 1794, it looks like it has enough detail to be attributable but I can't do it from this image.

The Two Cent does appear to be a small motto. Can you provide an image of the leaf cluster below GOD?
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Thanks for weighing in Conder. I took a few more pictures from different angles. I didn't include any more for the first one as they simply aren't adequate. The only thing distinctive I can see is possibly a die break above liberty's hair, but the only similar die break I know for a Liberty Cap is the 1793, and as you mentioned this is a 95 or 96 because of the thin planchet.

For the second one, here are several:

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And here are a few more of the 1864 small motto. "TRUST" is partially evident. I notice that some elements (the date, arrow-feathers) are double-struck, or am I imagining?
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 Posted 10/02/2017  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haven't worked on the 94, but the 2 cent is without question a small motto.
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Awesome, thanks!
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