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 I noticed tonight that one of my Capped Bust quarters had doubling in the denomination as per the picture below. I am a neophyte in terms of errors. Can anyone provide any information about how this doubling may have happened? There is no doubling anywhere else on the coin. Thanks!  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/30/2017 10:25 pm
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The coin shows a repunched date (RPD). It's a very nice one too. Undoubtedly, a capped bust expert will chime in with an attribution for you.
This RPD occurred when the date was entered into the die. The date punch was strike more than once, at least one of which was off line.
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Got a picture of the full coin?
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Thanks ItchyN. The coin is a 1819 Capped Bust quarter Small 9 B-3. I looked up the variety in coinfacts and all the examples exhibit this doubling. They also exhibit an extra period after the C for cents way above the one after the C.  So the denomination numbers were punched into the die individually and they misplaced the digit the first time? Pretty amazing that the die was punched with digits individually. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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The 1819 "small 9" date had the doubled 5 and the extra dot in the 25C. Nice looking quarter.
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Thanks. Just surprised that the digits in the denomination were punched into the die separately. The denomination wasn't like the date that changed every year.  Maybe I just don't understand the early 19th century die making process. IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/30/2017 11:08 pm
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The denomination wasn't like the date that changed every year. The mint probably just had single # punches already made for production so why have special punches made just to stamp 25? -  |
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I erroneously thought in my first post that you had showed us a picture of the date. Since it was really a part of the reverse, this is not an RPD.
But in 1819, those digits on the reverse were entered into the die the same way the date was punched, so the process is the same.
Perhaps there is terminology specific to the series (which I do not collect) for this variety, but I'd called it a "repunched digit on the reverse."
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Rest in Peace
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It's an excellent example. Nice and bold. Ill have to sneak a peek at mine to see if it's "common".
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If I have it correctly, during this era only the central devices were a permanent part of the hub, and everything on the periphery was independently punched into working dies. This is the reason why letter-letter relationships can be diagnostic for Bust coinage.
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For the record, there were two Small 9 varieties for this year, B-3 and B-4, using different obverses and a shared reverse. B-3 is the more common. The best "tell" is the date, which on B-3 is wider-spaced and further right. B-4 has 8-1 closer spaced and the 1 is tilted left. The first right star is also an easy diagnostic. Images courtesy of PCGS CoinFacts. B-3:  B-4:  |
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