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Concerns About An 1806 Carolus IIIi 8 Reales With A Mexico City Mint Mark

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 Posted 09/29/2017  4:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have said coin in my possession and have since "Pirates of The Caribbean" premiered. I bought it on ebay, and the Mrs was a big Johnny Depp fan, and loved thinking of it as "Pirate Money",so I gave it to her. She didn't care if it was real or not.

What bothers me about it is that its weight is incorrect. It weighs in at 26.6 grams, where it should weigh 27.07 grams.

The other thing is that the coin is slightly convex on the obverse or concave as it would apply to the reverse. Its as though too much pressure was exerted to the coin when putting the edge decoration on it.

Everything else looks right to my amateur eyes. The logotype is correct and the coin features the "medal" alignment as it should.

My wife passed away last December and I am liquidating what I'd gathered in hopes of securing a little better future for us, but since that card is no longer on the table, I've decided some stuff must go. I don't want to get in trouble though.

I'd appreciate any help you world coin guys may be able to afford me, and thank you in advance.

Here are 3 pictures to aid you...

Chance
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 Posted 09/30/2017  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see you went ahead and posted on ebay (along with the other piece, which is indeed just a known jewelry-type repro)...

The piece looks fine. Swamperbob of course has brought the later 1800s bullion restrikes of (mostly) Mexico 8R to the public forum... However, for your purposes, this is certainly an "old" piece and not any sort of modern numismatic fake.

The weight is perfectly reasonable for that level of wear... and the slight concavity (is convexity a word?) is not abnormal either.

I was all ready to rag on you about the Johnny Depp thing until I read through to the end... sucks to hear, esp. since I get the impression it was entirely too young. Hopefully the coming years have better in store while keeping memories alive.
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Thanks ... I just decided that if the buyer wasn't happy .. I'll make him happy by giving the money back. Its not that hard to comprehend. Its just better business sense.

The most difficult thing for me to fathom concerning Vickii's passing, was how it happened. We were watching TV, and she said "Something's not right ... Help me to the bathroom. I helped here to her feet, we made it 2 steps and she collapsed. She'd had a very serious heart attack, and I thought we got her to the hospital on time (I've done it (heart attack) 3 times, so I thought I had a good frame of reference) ... but it turns out that she was really, really sick. She'd had a persistent and nagging cough for a long time. The local clinic told here she just had "post nasal drip". My wife died as a result of complications following the heart attack. It was respiratory acidosis (makes the blood very acidic and destroys blood vessels) that caused the heart attack. The damage to her heart was so bad that she lost circulation to her right leg within an hour because of reduced blood flow.

23 hours after she said "Something's not right" ... I had to have her taken off of life support. The thing that's stranger than fiction ... is that Vickii and I stood in that VERY SAME room 19 years and 6 days earlier and had her mother removed from the same type of apparatus, ending her life. Vickii's Mom passed at age 66. My girl was just 63. We'd been together for 25 years, each having had 2 failed marriages before we tied the knot.

In 23 hours my life turned into a crap sandwich with no bread.... and out of the clear blue, which made it hit so hard and hurt so bad. It happened so fast that we never got to say our goodbyes.

Probably too much information, I'm sure ... but maybe somebody's spouse has a nagging cough and the story will help them make the decision to get the heck away from the clinic as fast as you can and seek "real" medical help.

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