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Pillar of the Community
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To make a long story short, I won this on ebay this past summer. It was listed as "1804 Liberty Coin" I saw the coin while scrolling through some auctions and thought it looked too good and that it was fake. I didn't even open up the auction to view. About 30 coins down I saw an 1846 Tall date half. looked XF but cleaned. Opened the auction figured it was worth a low ball bid. I then clicked on sellers other auctions and there was that 1804 Liberty Coin again so I opened the auction and in the description it said "lightweight and thin probably a copy". But then I opened the reverse picture and saw "25C" below the eagle which would explain the lightweight and thin description. So I bid and won it at a price I'm embarrassed to disclose. After receiving it the weight checked out, the variety checked out (only 2 for that year) and it looked good. Pretty sure it was cleaned once before as it has an un-natural gloss on the obverse. Put it in my widow sill for a month on cardboard but not much changed and I really wanted to send to PCGS which it is currently on the way. There is no doubt in my mind it is genuine and thinking it will grade XF details cleaned. Some weak clouds and stars on the reverse and obverse has the die flaw at 2:00 and die clash. Check Heritage to see some nice examples of this rare date. What do you all think? I plan on selling it and paying off some debt. Thanks!    |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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high xf - almost au details cleaned. looks like a home run. these are like hen's teeth and has beautiful detail. The hair above the forehead is so well defined. congratulations!  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/29/2017 8:52 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Wow. That is amazing. Even if you paid a reasonable price, this is a beauty both for date and type.
At a cheap price you've probably burned some well acquired karma points. Congratulations.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Can you provide a weight in grams? 6.70-6.75 is spec. Also, try to obtain a shot of the edge reeding if possible. This coin has full AU detail, so if it's genuine, it's worth 35-65k or even more.
The hair above the ear area and towards the ribbon worries me a bit, as all of the hair above that point looks to have pinhole pitting, but otherwise, other than the color, I don't see any immediate red flags. That being said, I am far from an expert on these large eagle early Quarters.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks pretty good, almost too good as you say. You know these are wafer thin pieces. The area near the upper center of the reverse (in and around the stars) is suspect. That said if it's genuine it's worth tens of thousands. The Chinese copies are often listed as 1804 Liberty Coin so that's an odd one too. The seller info could lend more information. It would be a very high quality copy if it is counterfeit. It would be the ebay find of the century if it's genuine. This one will be interesting to follow. |
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Pillar of the Community
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All the ones I've seen have the soft stars. They also have weak wingtips. Here is an MS example via the Heritage site.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks real, but nowadays, who knows? Don't be embarrassed revealing your winning low ball bid....inquiring minds want to know!
Good luck on your submission! Please keep us posted!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Remarkable. Keep us informed.
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Pillar of the Community
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If that is a counterfeit, somebody did a heck of a job getting all the details right. I wouldn't be able to sleep till I got it back from PCGS.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
505 Posts |
Mark said it. I would be on pins and needles waiting for the slab or no slab.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1261 Posts |
Wow, it matches the clashed dies seen on this variety. Interesting! Please let us know how it turns out!!
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Valued Member
United States
406 Posts |
That would be an amazing find if it turns about to be real, which I hope it is. Can not wait to hear the PCGS results!
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Certainly looks authentic to me. Put me in the group of members hoping you hit a home run! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Awesome score! the clashed dies are indicative of the authenticity, well done.
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