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Do You Consider The 1925 Norse American As One Of The Early Commemoratives?

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Or is it in a category by itself?

Why or why not would be helpful as well.

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 It's a part of the Early Commem Series
 All of the Norse's are in their own category
 Did you say norse, or horse?

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I voted the for last option because I'm not familiar with them. However, NGC lists them under "Silver Commemoratives (1892-1954)". They are really medals since there is no denomination. Maybe that's the difference?
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I had to research it too. This link to PCGS may be of interest to those wanting more info on the medal.
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/9450
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You can include the Norse Medals in your type set or complete 144 CSC set, but they do not count toward a registered point value.

If a registered set is not your desired collecting route there is no definitive answer for their inclusion in your set.

This is primarily a hold over from years gone by when they were included in CSC book albums.

I've looked at them many times, but I've always decided I'd rather put that money toward higher grade CSC for my type set.

But I also think they are awesome looking medals.
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IMO, a collection of classic US silver commemoratives is not complete without at least one example (thick or thin) of the 1925 Norse-American Centennial medal.

Why?

1. The sponsor of the medal, Norse-American Centennial, Incorporated, originally sought a commemorative half dollar, but was convinced by the Treasury Department to accept a commemorative medal instead.

2. The medal followed the exact same path through Congress as each of the commemorative coins:

a) bills for it were introduced in Congress
b) the House and Senate debated the bills and ultimately passed one version (in this case, the Senate version)
c) the approved legislation for the medal was signed into law by the President of the United States (Calvin Coolidge). Without Coolidge's signature, the medals would not have been struck by the US Mint.

3. Silver Norse-American medals were struck on planchets of "coin silver" (i.e., the same 0.900 fine silver composition as the US silver coins of the era) and were struck in the same manner as coins by the Mint (on coin presses)

4. Dealers of the time sold them alongside the coins as official members of the commemorative series.

5. Coin albums of the time included space for them in their US commemorative products.

I've posted about these medals here, here and here; they may be of interest to some.




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I don't consider them part of the set, because they aren't technically coins (no face value).
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"It's a part of the Early Commem Series"

Commems convinced me of that a long time ago and yes, his links are worth the read.
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Nice reads Commems!

I find it interesting that picture #3 of this thread http://goccf.com/t/135090 shows the '32 Washington 25¢ also as a commemorative, which I also consider it to be.

I'm going to add a space for the Norse, but my '32 Wash is already there (this is still a work in progress):

Do-You-Consider-The-1925-Norse-American-As-One-Of-The-Early-Commemoratives?
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I find it interesting that picture #3 of this thread http://goccf.com/t/135090 shows the '32 Washington 25¢ also as a commemorative, which I also consider it to be.

I agree that the 1932 Washington quarter should be considered part of the US classic commemorative series.

I offered up my thoughts as part of this thread: 1932 Washington Commemorative Quarter?


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When I collected commems back in the '80s and '90s, I did not include it, I suppose mostly because the few dealers I bought from always described it as a separate animal. Certainly doesn't matter to me.

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I consider the 1925 Norse as a closely related family member to the classic silver commemorative set. I have one of each (both thick silver versions) in my MS and circulated sets.

I'm most proud of my PCGS FR02 example .... imagine how long someone had to carry that as a pocket piece since as noted already it was not a denominated legal tender coin and therefore did not circulate to gain any of the wear.

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I just got the thick Norse, and will be looking for a honest circulated thin medal too.
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I'm most proud of my PCGS FR02 example .... imagine how long someone had to carry that as a pocket piece since as noted already it was not a denominated legal tender coin and therefore did not circulate to gain any of the wear.
I would be, too.
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No intention to steal the thread ... but an image of the 'coin' I am indeed proud of:

1925 Norse American Medal - PCGS FR02

Do-You-Consider-The-1925-Norse-American-As-One-Of-The-Early-Commemoratives?

It's truly amazing to me that this medal was so lovingly carried for so many years ... and most amazing of all ended up with me as it's temporary custodian.

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