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My Rant On Coin Prices On The Bay .

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 Posted 10/07/2017  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^ this. I will discount ebay prices 8-10% at shows or direct with a check, but of course if someone finds you through ebay, there is no way to share contact information with them to make a deal without ebay getting involved. They have even threatened to charge you final value fees if they have evidence that you exchanged contact info to do the deal "offline".
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 Posted 10/07/2017  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can always start a collection of foreign coins. US coins are generally overpriced, no matter where you buy them. Or you can have a look at online shops abroad. Here in Norway you can buy a lot of decent US coins for very decent prices and all shops have a website. There are a kazillion other online sources than ebay. You can also post a wish list here on the forum, look at what others have for sale, etc.

And I'm pretty sure that you can also buy socks on ebay. But just that you can, doesn't mean you should. I haven't traded on ebay for many years and my collections (both coins and socks) are still growing.
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 Posted 10/07/2017  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nautilator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay prices are no better than the prices of everywhere on the whole: most are crap and a few are good. The worse prices are usually casual sellers who aren't really in the business or hobby and don't realize the price they should be selling for.

Just as an example, I bought some coin webbings on ebay for $1 each. I saw them at a coin show in January and the person wanted $12 each for them.

A lot of antique shops I visit expect $15 for average grade franklin and liberty halves. The coin shops sell them for $7, sometimes less.

A lot of the same antique shops expect $10-15 for average circulated $1 silver certificates. Many outdoor flea markets I've seen want $3 each for them, and a coin shop a distance away from me wants $2.

An antique shop I went to last week wanted "$35 firm" on an average grade Columbian half dollar. I recently tried to make an offer on one on ebay because I liked its toning. He wanted $35 for one that had obvious wear on it but was calling a BU, and auto-rejected my offer. It sold a day later to some unsuspecting fool.

ebay used to be awful for WW2 occupation money. Now they're so-so but nowhere near as good as local dealers who have surpluses that they can't get rid of.

I remember seeing one description on ebay where a seller said he put up a 1921 high relief Peace dollar for around $60. It didn't sell and he sold it at a show for double that.

I've bought a few golden dollar blank planchets on ebay for $27 each. Their Red Book value is $85.

I could make an endless list like this of the prices I've seen -- both bargains and ripoffs, both online and at shows. Point is, the only thing they have in common is you have to look around and not jump at something just because it's the only one for sale at any given moment.

ebay has a major advantage that no show or dealer does: the size of its audience. There have been so many times I've seen some random, obscure token, notgeld, or anything unusual, run immediately to ebay looking for it and sure enough there's *one* person selling it. I've gotten tons of good deals that way.
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 Posted 10/07/2017  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add guppie58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think ebay is hit or miss. There are plenty of coin stores that sell through ebay, and you can confirm their legitimacy when they have a 100% satisfaction guarantee. I have no local coin shops within several hours of my house, so ebay is my go-to. I've bought quite a lot from ebay over the past year, and most of my experiences have been great. I've only had three hiccups:
1. A pair of nickels I ordered was lost in the mail. Seller immediately issued a refund (I was bummed because I really wanted the nickels, but it was the best he could do).
2. I ordered a coin from an online coin shop that was delivered with the wrong mint mark. Not a very expensive coin, but one that I was not going to find in a bank roll. I contacted the seller and he sent the correct mint mark while also allowing me to keep the other coin he sent because of my troubles.
3. I had an issue with a coin's display case. The seller offered any help he could, which included a fully refunded and postage-paid return if I wanted it. After exchanging a number of messages, we figured out the issue and no return was necessary.

Perhaps I have been lucky, but I have yet to encounter any sellers on ebay that disregard customer satisfaction. It is probably because I only buy from established sellers that have good reviews.

As far as prices go, ebay takes a lot of patience. Learning to regularly check and do thorough checks are important. A LOT of sellers overprice their coins. I think there was a plain circulated 1979 (nothing special with it) quarter that a seller listed for around $400. I saw him relist it when it expired, maybe hoping some idiot would buy it and he'd make a 160,000x profit. There were probably 10 people watching it, myself included, because it was just funny. As has been stated, though, some sellers price their coins too low. I missed out on an opportunity to buy a Fine 1914-D for $90 a couples weeks ago. I got greedy and offered $65, and it sold for $90 before the seller could take a look at my offer.
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@ T-BOP
ebay is a nice place to buy coins .....but .
You have to know ,what are you buying and especially ,know the market prices ...sometimes you can be very lucky.
Before you place a bid or buy in ebay ,check for values *first* :

https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...tates/cents/
This is only an example,they have a section for world-wide too
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 Posted 10/07/2017  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a very large selection of items that fall into the numismatic or exonumic fields. Try something new.

There are also so many coins available from so many sources that I think we tend to get spoiled. When we decide we want a specific coin at a given grade for a set price, it's easy to believe it should be available right now.

If it's not, we are actually looking for something worth hunting. If you want a 09-S VDB in virtually any grade, you can find it today. If you want a reasonable price you might need more patience.

But if you want something like a 34-S Walker in 64, or a 65 Isabella Quarter without icky tone at a reasonable price $1200-1250, or any number of less actively sought coins, those can be quite a challenge.

I use ebay, larger dealers such as Lawrence, local coin shops, national to local shows, Heritage, Great Collections, and Stacks, in addition to this forum, and magazine offers.

Even so, I might only find one or two coins a month. A Good deal of my pleasure is the hunt.
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Lots of great stuff on the Bay as well as dealer home sites. I tend to buy slabbed material as a rule, but never without return privileges. I always ask questions (if any) before bidding or buying, and frequently make offers to independent dealers or on "Buy It Now" lots. It's easy to haggle on-line.

Above all, only deal with reputable dealers both on and off the Bay.
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Take a look at this place. I got a few MS nickels off them for very competitive prices. ( No, I'm not affiliated to this or any coin dealer)

http://www.procoins.com/
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I know, I hate the bay. I was burnt on a 1980 DO F'S-101 not! They then inserted a thank you card signed by a child...? What a crummy way to sell coins. In spite of that I have picked up a 1982 DO-F'S-101 cleaned, a 1971 F'S-101, and a nice AU 1972 DDO for under book. There's still some oldtime horse traders out there wanting to fairly move coins but boy their in the minority.
Bashing ebay makes me feel empowered also.
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The Bay has many flaws on the listing terms for coins and paper money that invite crooks, no doubt. But if you trust your grading skills (or buy slabbed material) with full return privileges, the Bay has enormous potential.
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But if you trust your grading skills (or buy slabbed material) with full return privileges, the Bay has enormous potential


Right, there are bargains to be had on ebay as long as you are knowledgeable and don't be too competitive with the "nobody is outbidding me on this one" attitude. I see people post all the time on CCF the great deals they got on large cents, although I just can't seem to be the one to find any!
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TBOP, I understand your feelings about ebay coins being overpriced. I will not pay inflated prices, but I am willing to pay fair market value. Lately a lot of my ebay purchases have been in auction. I have also noticed that gold coins on ebay have even more inflated prices than other classic coins. I have almost given up on gold coins on ebay, and I will start looking more at Heritage and GC. At this time if I find a classic coin a month that I want to buy, I am making progress.
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I have a lame theory that because the stock market is up, coin prices on ebay are up also. The pickin's are also slimmer for the same reason. Less people are selling and there are less available true auctions than there was, let's say two years ago, or even last year. I work fairly hard at trying to find good deals, and they are still there, but few. Classic coins are harder to find, and "Modern Coinage" is taking over I feel this is just a trend though, and things will turn around at some point. Technically, it seems like a "sellers" market, but sellers don't really need the money, so the prices remain high with not much movement. Just my .02
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A lot of the same antique shops expect $10-15 for average circulated $1 silver certificates. Many outdoor flea markets I've seen want $3 each for them, and a coin shop a distance away from me wants $2.

As with large coin shows, pawn shops, antique shops, etc. you must always try to remember that any stores of any kind just pay for many things from their sales. Such items as a phone bill, internet bill, gas, water, electric and possibly rent. Also, many of those shops have families that their only income is that shop so many things must be paid for from sales. ebay has things like pay pal and even ebay fees. Not many places or people want to sell a coin for just what it's worth. As a general rule, the sale of any coin or item must maintain a profit for the seller.
Would you sell for a fair price if you owned a coin store?
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This is a really good topic. ebay is pretty much my life line to coins. Having said that, I am at the sellers mercy in what I pay. There are indeed deals to be found. Many prices are very high but when you have no other alternative what are you gonna do? I mainly focus on Canadian coins and living in the USA makes it very challenging...higher shipping prices, longer shipping times, etc. Often the photos of the coins you buy are not always that good so you may get something different from what you were expecting. If I had a local coin shop I'd go there. But even then there is no guarantee they'll deal in Canadian coins. I live in rural northern Michigan so my options are not good. I have been burned, and I have scored big. There are certain coins I am VERY picky about and that's ok.
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