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Imitation Of A Dutch Lion Dollar Italy Corregio Camillo D'austria 1597-1605

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D(mm): 42mm
(mass): 27 gram
Obv: Lion left
Legend: Rose * CONFID * DNO * NO * MOVET* P * SOL * SE *
Rev: 1592. * CAM * AVS * CIV * 15 - 97 * MO * NO COM * CO *, Standing Knight, facing left, holding shield.
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So this coin is a fake? I don't know anything about this type. Can you explain what's wrong with it?
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It's not a fake. During the late 16th-early 17th century, these type of coins weren't used anymore in the Dutch Republic. But they were still in use in the mediterranean states like the ones in Italy.
In trade, due to the size and the good name of the coin, it was a valued trade currency. Because of this popularity, the coins were reintroduced in Italy, with the Dutch originals as example.
Not of pure silver, but with some copper added.
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interesting coin archeo 1982

indeed this is not a fake nor a counterfeit but a "transparent" imitation with mention of the place where the imitation was produced

other imitations from the same period originate from Germany (Rietberg and Emden); the imitations are even more valued by coin collectors than the original coins, which were produced in the Netherlands until 1713

so the imitations and the originals circulated in parallel and were very useful for trading in the Levant

see H. Enno van Gelder, (2002) De Nederlandse munten, Utrecht, Het Spectrum. Zie p. 91, 136, 247, 255.
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Is it an idea to have the coin professional cleaned?
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The edges look like they need some work.
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Could be an interesting topic on officially "copied" coins.

I'm not as widely travelled as others out here, but I know that late medieval English pennies with monarch facing obv, and long cross rev were copied other places in Europe, as was the French gros tournois, the gold florin, etc.


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And you also have the Belgian (Reckheim) imitations of Dutch Republic copper coins
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