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1936 Canada Silver Dollar - Specimen Maybe?

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Hi Folks! Been coming here off and on to glean the wisdom of the community for years, but never posted before, so here it goes.

I recently purchased this 1936 Canada Silver Dollar while on vacation in the US at shop that mainly specialized in US coinage primarily. Most of their stuff was high end Certified, but they had "foreign" currencies, including a handful Canadian. This one however caught my eye.

I am by far no expert, but something about the matte-like finish struck me as odd, so I decided to buy it. I had a '36 at home, but figured it was unique on its own.


1936-Canada-Silver-Dollar---Specimen-Maybe?
1936-Canada-Silver-Dollar---Specimen-Maybe?


Anyway, what little I could find on this effect made me wonder if perhaps it is SP. Compared to all my other coins of the era, they all have a mirror like field and emboss. Both sides appear to have a satin like quality that just strikes me as odd. Not sure if the pics conveys that.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regardless, I love the coin and happy with it. Just want to know how I would grade it for my collection. As far as I can tell, it hasn't been cleaned. There is very light tarnish on some areas of the rim.

Thanks!
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Most definitely NOT a specimen strike. From here, it looks like this coin was the victim of whizzing (possibly by plastic wheels, instead of steel)... that orange peel texture is a smoking gun, in my opinion.
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Its not a specimen coin. Looks like an AU coin thats been cleaned.
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Thank you both for your opinions. Much appreciated. Kinda expected a strike out, but had to check.

SPP-Ottawa, I never heard of whizzing, and looked at a few examples online, then examined the coin as best I could. I really couldn't see any of the tell-tales offered, but like I said, I'm no expert.

I still plan to take it to a few dealers I know for their thoughts for the heck of it.

Either way, I still like its look, and it has a place in my collection.

Out of curiosity, are there ANY pictures of what a Specimen Dollar of the era out there? I couldn't find jack. Just a written description, which is what I based my question on.

Anyway, thanks again!
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Good luck!



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Either way, I still like its look, and it has a place in my collection.


That is the best reason of all, why we collect!!

1936 Specimen dollars are quite scarce. There are a few photos on PCGS population reports.

https://www.PCGS.com/pop/valueview.aspx?s=32430
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I really couldn't see any of the tell-tales offered, but like I said, I'm no expert.


The "halo" effect around letters and devices, particularly noticeable on the obverse, is a smoking gun. Whatever tool used to buff the coin (I'm suspecting a Dremel-sized cotton buffing wheel, perfectly capable of creating that orange peel look at Dremel speeds) couldn't reach there.
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Thanks again SPP-Ottawa! Those pics helped a lot! Would have saved everyone the trouble had I seen those.

SsuperDdave, thanks for your observations too. Wasn't really sure what to look for, but the halo effect suddenly stands out more. Makes me want to go through EVERY coin in my collection!

Well, despite all that, I still love the coin. Makes me wonder why someone would ruin these pieces. I get it - money! Still, kinda sad to see such tampering of already beautiful pieces. Oh well.

Thanks again for all the input!

Cheers!
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