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Sestertius Of Domitian

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 Posted 10/19/2017  3:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Michael 1965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys, I have found what I think is a sestertius of Domitian, but I'm really having trouble finding an exact example of the same coin,the obverse legend has COS XII , similar items I've researched have different numerals on it, can anyone help with the identification of this coin
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 Posted 10/19/2017  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Funny someone I know was trying to tempt me with the same type just last week.
From my discussion with my friend he told me that this type was produced through most of Domitians reign. If that is true (likely) then the COS numbers would change several times at least !
If you google Roman consuls you can find the list to narrow the year this one was issued.
I notice some edge corrosion which is somewhat troubling.
This coin may have bronze disease and be coated with something to forestall it crumbling into dust.
The weight may help indicate if it is serious.
Corrosion weighs less than bronze !
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 Posted 10/19/2017  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archeo1982 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A really nice find! Congrats!
Domitian, AE sestertius, AD 86, Rome.
Legend: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XII CENS PER P P,
Obv: laureate head right, aegis on shoulder
Rev: SC beneath Domitian standing left, holding thunderbolt and spear, crowned by Victory standing left behind him.
Ref: RIC 474; Cohen 406; BMCRE 381; Sear 2774.
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 Posted 10/19/2017  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This coin may have bronze disease


@michael 1965, I am very concerned about the bright green color on most of the surfaces of your coin. I would recommend first a soak in acetone to make sure that it wasn't added recently. Then I would read other posts here on CCF about treating bronze disease, starting with this one:

http://goccf.com/t/61519
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 Posted 10/19/2017  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice looking coin. The edge on the reverse might be the start of bronze disease, If it is powdery and co m e off when you rub it than you have to worry. The rest of the green color on the surface looks OK and is the patina on the coin.
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 Posted 10/20/2017  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greekandromancoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin!

Here is one I used to own 12 years ago and now I wish I had never sold.

Domitian; Sestertius;92-94 AD; IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XV CENS PER P P laureate head of Domitian facing right / IOVI VICTORI, Jupiter seated left holding Victory in extended right hand; S C in exergue; 24.78 grams; RIC II 388; BMCRE 439; BN 476; Cohen 314

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 Posted 10/20/2017  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael 1965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all thankyou for your replies, I can confirm this coin was found by myself so I know it's genuine,it does have a bit of bronze disease but I'm hoping that when I have it recorded that the museum will offer to do it for me, if not does anyone know if it worth paying someone to clean and preserve it properly? Thanks for all your helps,
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One problem with the BD is that you need determine how far the disease has spread.
Getting the precise weight of the coin would help me in diagnosis. BD can often spread beneath the surfaces that seem to be okay. The edges look like they may have it bad. If there is no solid bronze beneath the areas of corrosion the diagnosis is not good. The overall weight will be indicative. Corrosion is light while bronze is heavy.
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 Posted 10/21/2017  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael 1965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there, it weighs 26.5 grand,if that helps, I don't know what it's supposed to weigh? Regards Michael
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Reference my last reply, it weighs 26.5 grams
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 Posted 10/21/2017  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
26.5 is very encouraging !
Weights can and do vary conciderably. But at this weight the coin must be metal.
I once had a Postumus double Sestertius with a similar appearance. Despite its size it had a very low weight. I put it through the 'cure' and the results were disappointing to say the least. Removal of the diseased areas led to chipping of the beautiful green patina which exposed even more BD which had spread beneath the surfaces.
Proceed slowly whatever you do !
A short bath in acetone followed by a long bath in distilled water might be enough to start.
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 Posted 10/22/2017  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Michael 1965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thankyou very much for your help,its going in to the museum in a few weeks,should I do this now or can I wait until then? Is acetone what is used to remove nail varnish? And when you say a short bath in how long should I leave it in the acetone?
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 Posted 10/24/2017  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have indicated that you found it yourself so it would be rather surprising if acetone changed it very much !
Acetone will remove most artificial coatings and dissolve any oils covering the surfaces.
In this case the acetone should remove minor amounts of dirt but the primary purpose is as a desiccant. Half an hour should leave it bone dry.
This is the ideal starting point for further treatments. Immersion in distilled water or another chemical bath like sodium sesquicarbonate
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