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Valued Member
Australia
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Hello, guys!  I love to noodle 50 cents coins. What is the hardest 50 cents coin to find in circulation? For me, 2010 upset one is the hardest to find. I have found a few of clipped error, incused 50 cents, But I couldn't find any 2010 upset 50 cents in circulation. I heard most of them were released in NSW. What happened to NSW in 2010?
John
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Hi John, do you have a table displaying the spread your 50c finds like you did for your $2 noodling in a previous post?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Die life is typically around 100,000 to 150,000.
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Norway
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What is the hardest 50 cents coin to find in circulation? Probably the ones minted for circulation from 1968 onward. Copper-nickel is much harder than silver.  Anyway, I think that for Australia the same applies as for other countries: the mintage number at release divided by the total population of circulating coins of that denomination at that time gives an indication of how hard it will be to find a specific coin. And from there it only gets harder, as the total population of that specific coin decreases, due to loss, damage or recall by the mint. As such, I expect the 2010 upset to be Nintendo-hard to get as probably at maximum about 100.000 pieces have been made (if the upset error hasn't been discovered before the die was worn). But 2010 was already 7 years ago, so the population will be smaller by now. |
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do you have a table displaying the spread your 50c finds like you did for your $2 noodling in a previous post? I don't have a table displaying the spread my 50c finds. I think I should have one though. Quote:
Die life is typically around 100,000 to 150,000. I thought each die life is approximately 200,000. Why there exists difference of coin dies? I have never found any 2010 50C Upset coins while I have found 6 x 2000 Incused 50C coins in circulation. 2010 50C Upset die life might be around 100,000 to 150,000. 2000 50C Incused die life also might be 100,000 to 150,000. If the quantity of these dies are the same, There should not be low or high in scarcity. Quote:
the mintage number at release divided by the total population of circulating coins of that denomination at that time gives an indication of how hard it will be to find a specific coin. The mintage of 1985 50C coin is 1,000,000. The mintage of 1993 50C coin is also 1,000,000. The former one is just 8 years older than the latter one. But 1985 50C is much harder to find than 1993 50C. I only found one 1985 50C while I found 5 x 1993 50C coins last noodling.
John Edited by johnny1989
11/02/2017 04:52 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I suspect that for Incused Flag, only one pair of dies were used.
Die pair life for copper nickel 50 Cents may less than for say, Al bronze One Dollar coins, for two reasons:
1. - the coin is smaller
2. - Al bronze is slightly softer.
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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My opinion of the 1985 50c mintage of 1m is that it's simply a misprint / misquote, begun by one source and repeated by all other sources. I believe that all 1985 50c found in circulation have originated from Mint Sets that have been broken up.
1993 50c coins are relatively easy to find, and since I started collecting in the early 60's I have found a few 93's and no 85's.
I also found a few 2000 Incuse, but the 2010 Upset has eluded me.
life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Valued Member
Australia
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Hi all
There were a few hundred thousand 1985 50c issued into circulation by the RAM and, as I usual did then, I tried to selected my reasonable annual quota - 45-50 - from various dealers in Melbourne as soon as they were issued.
However, all the 1985 50c released into circulation by the RAM were substandard in quality because their obverse all had a darkish gray tone with many pock marks. There was a change in the Queen's effigy that year, although this couldn't have been any valid explanation for this very poor 50c offering from the RAM.
I didn't bother with of the 1985 50c because they were just disappointingly such rubbish quality.
Strangely enough many of the 1985 20c in the 1985 RAM mint sets have a unsavory grubby looking grayish toning on the obverse and in many instances the reverse too.
There were some very high quality 1993 50c issued, of which I was luckily able to individually hand select my usual quota.
The 1997 50c was, what I consider to be, a very good bargain when I bought them immediately after their release.
Yes, the 2010 upset 50c is very illusive.
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Valued Member
Australia
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I wrote in an earlier post some months ago regarding the " Fatter Date " 1993 50c which I happen to discover while putting 1993 50c - ex Mint Sets - into 2 x 2 holders for 3 of my grandsons.
Has anyone else come across any of these " Fatter Date " 1993 50c ?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I wrote in an earlier post some months ago regarding the " Fatter Date " 1993 50c Read your earlier post and the photos taken by johnnykim aren't very conclusive ... would you be able to show a close up of each date taken directly from above? |
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Australia
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hi coaster If you type 1993 50c into ebay's Australian decimal coins toolbar there are some 20 or more 1993 50c listed for sale. You can see a few of the " Fatter Date " ones there. Some of the 1993 50c are in very ordinary condition, but none the less the 2 different 1993 dates can be seen. Interestingly, there is also a 1993 50c listed with the " Double Bars " behind the Emu's neck : a very unclear picture of the 1993 50c's " Double Bars " - with the main area behind the Emu's neck fuzzy. Some years ago I come across 2 1993 50c with feint " Double Bars " behind the Emu's neck, and also one 1981 CoA 50c with the " Double Bars ". Reinvigorated my interest in decimal coins again. |
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Australia
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I believe that all 1985 50c found in circulation have originated from Mint Sets that have been broken up. I think they're much too common for that. Year-wise the 1985 has been the most difficult for me. |
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Australia
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I believe 1985 coins from circulation are pretty hard to find, however not as hard as the rotated die or the misalign errors since they are noticed straight away and taken out of circulation.
Why I say this is, because I found one 1985 50c piece and looked at it closely. I would say it is standard issue which makes me believe that somewhere they are being hoarded or they are relatively scarce among the backgrounds population. If you wondering I sold it already, not a big fan of demcial coins.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I almost think that the the 1985 mintage figure may be a little high (possibly includes 1984 minted coins?).
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Possibly includes the collector sets and proof coins minted that year, so numbers might be offer by a few 100k.
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07/16/2018 7:42 pm
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