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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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A very nice looking silver rider from the city of Utrecht, sadly enough the obverse was damage by a fire or something. Obv: Armoured knight riding horse brandishing sword. Crowned coat of arms of the province of Utrecht below. Legend: MO NO ARG CON FOE BELG PRO TRAI Rev: Two lions, heads facing, holding crowned coat of arms, year (1760) below. Legend: CONCORDIA . RES . PARVAE . CRES  . Diameter: 44mm Mass: 32,74 gramm  
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Still a great pull. Congratulations.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Someday I will have to get that coin.
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This one looks like seawater damage.   There are a number of Dutch shipwrecks ca 1715-1740 which could be the source.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
521 Posts |
The damage on mine is caused by extreme heat. Other coins on this site were found melted to each other
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Valued Member
Taiwan
192 Posts |
Quote: The damage on mine is caused by extreme heat. Other coins on this site were found melted to each other Was the heat caused by fire on a ship? I guess the coins would melt before getting dumped into the water?
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
521 Posts |
Possibly, but it must have been a small ship. It's not from the coast but from an area with lots of big lakes en rivers
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Valued Member
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In the 1990's a large number of Spanish cobs were recovered in Seville Harbor, from a ship which sank ca 1671-1672. Seville is 50 miles inland, so these are also freshwater recovery. These coins do not show the typical shipwreck corrosive effects from seawater, and look more like your rijder. https://coins.www.collectors-societ...spx?sc=74200I found a small hoard of these at Harlan Berk several years ago and purchased a few 4R denomination dated 1665-1671. They are extremely sharp in their strike detail, though as cobs the strikes are imperfect. They are as black as coal. Here are a pair side by side. I cleaned up the one on the right to make the details visible. The lighting hides how dark they are in hand.  
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/29/2017 7:39 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
521 Posts |
Nice Spanish coins  The ducaton has the same black coloring as this medieval denarius that was found in a field with clay/peat layers.  They come out completely black or corroded. After cleaning them a bit, especially the higher parts as lettering, something like this remains.
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United Kingdom
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