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GTG - 1928 Hawaiian!

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Ok, I can't believe I own this. Went to a coin show today, and was able to work out a trade for this.

So, what would you grade it? (Line across the lower reverse is on the slab, which I still need to polish, and there may be others)


GTG---1928-Hawaiian!
GTG---1928-Hawaiian!
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 Posted 10/29/2017  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks square for a 63, and I wouldn't be shocked with 64.

Mucho congratulations. This is the beast.

Got your dollar yet?
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If you mean the Lafayette, yes. It was one of the first. It's very dark toned, and at ANACS right now getting slabbed. Still waiting for the results.
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I like the lettering style on this classic commemorative. I'd say 64 because the focal points are clean.
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If your Lafayette isn't cleaned consider it a gift. There are so many cleaned raw. If it MS's double the gift as the 58 can be tough to read.

Love your choice here.
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MS-63.
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I'm adding 2 more photos. They are after the slab was polished, and then I shot at f/2.8, which gives me little to no depth of field, which threw anything on the slab out of focus enough to make it nearly invisible. I also made no adjustments other than brightness and contrast. Also was able to make them a bit larger (click to enlarge).

Once I reveal the grade, you'll understand why I'm trying to give you folks the sharpest and most realistic photos I can.


GTG---1928-Hawaiian!
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Still searching for this type to finish my set.
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Hooray for you ... the King of the classic silver commemorative series.

Outstanding photos .... I'm going MS63 on this beauty.

You can't have many left now.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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64? This is a tough one to grade for me as it looks hazy. Either way it is a tough one to find!
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Don't have much experience grading these. Tell us about the luster, please.
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Luster is there, but it isn't full cartwheel in your face luster.
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I'll have to go with AU-58 - not really circulated, but perhaps slightly mishandled over the years.
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The grade may surprise you all. I did a GTG on two forums, and nobody recognized it as being a cleaned coin. I posted the second set of photos in case the first set was throwing people off, but you all still graded it straight. I also sent the original huge photo files to 1 members here (and 2 on another forum) to see if they could see anything indicative of a cleaning. Nobody could find anything.

I went yesterday to my local dealer, with the grade taped over (so as not to sway his grade), and asked him to evaluate and grade the coin. He looked at it for a long time, then finally looked up and said "AU Details - Improperly Cleaned". I asked him what he saw that made him say it was improperly cleaned, and he said there are no hairlines, or other indicators that are obvious, but he felt the color of the metal was just a hair off, and the cartwheel luster is there, but not 'in your face' type of cartwheel, leading him to believe that at some point in the past (his guess was 20-40 years ago), it was probably dipped and not rinsed correctly.

He felt the UNC grading was justifiable, albeit a true slider that slid over to the MS/UNC side.

And the slab -


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