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Valued Member
Romania
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So I try to organize my coins but I don't want to mix up the european and asian coins.
I have problems at russian(soviet), turkish and cyprian coins.
I heard that coins in Russia are minted in Moscov and St. Petersburg. That part of Russia belongs to Europe, but the other 75% of the country is in Asia.
Turkey's capital is in Europe too, but it's 95% is in Asia.
As I know, Cyprus is half european, half asian.
So what should I do?
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 United States
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@robertp, I'm not 100% sure why you are sub-sorting coins by continent (as opposed to just sorting by issuing country). However, it is your collection and you should be able to pick the organization method. I would pick whichever continent makes the most sense to you. For me, if 95% of Turkey is in Asia, then I would include Turkey there. Hope this helps a little.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I've always thought of Russia and Cyprus as part of Europe, Turkey as part of Asia. I'd organise this way if it were my collection.
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Valued Member
 Romania
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Thank you. And yeah it's a little weird sorting method   |
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United States
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It's certainly not a new concept to organize by area rather than by issuing authority. Those areas which were subject to numerous name and political factions which changed the names most commonly reside beneath the last used or current umbrella.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I disregard the 'continental' approach.
I just slavishly follow the Krause World coin listing methods, because I believe that they are the best. They have put a lot of thought into their listing methods for our convenience. It is also easier to locate coins in your own World collection.
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Australia
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I have a similar continent-based classification system, for filing my bulk (uncarded) coins into albums by continent. And I have a similar "problem" in choosing where to put the countries straddling two continents (such as Russia and Turkey). Personally, I choose the location of the capital city.
Turkey is problematic here, as its capital has shifted in the 20th century from Europe (Constantinople) to Asia (Ankara). You could either choose to keep them all in Asia (to keep all the Turkish coins together) or to split them up and put the Ottoman coins in Europe, and the Turkish coins in Asia.
Sorting by location of mint-city might be logical, but it is problematic, as several countries would be split up. For example, many older Russian coins were minted in Ekaterinburg, which is on the Asian side of the Ural Mountains, and Ottoman Turkish coins were struck in both European and Asian cities. I personally would not want to split the countries up between albums if I could help it.
Islands can be problematic. Malta is about halfway between mainland Europe and Africa (though it is quite close to the Italian island of Sicily); it is culturally European (and currently part of the European Union) so tends to be filed there. Cyprus, on the other hand, is clearly an "island off the coast of Asia", so I file it under Asia, even though it is ethnically and politically linked to Europe (and is also an EU member-state).
The most important thing is that you know where the coins are in your collection, so you can find them again when you want to. So file them where you'd think of looking for them.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
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I always thought Cyprus to be part of Europe due to the fact the island is heavily Greek in its origin?
Anyway, I organised my coins by alphabetically. I never thought about organising the coins by continents. I think that makes somewhat sense to me.
BUT there is some problem with this organisational idea: there are some countries that have territories on other continents. For example, France has territories in South America and in North America.
You have a point about Russia and Turkey. I would go with current geo-political designations: Russia is considered European and Turkey Asian.
By large, Europeans would consider that Turkey is Asian/Middle Eastern nation, not European even if they have land in Europe. History is quite a mess on this point, I think.
As to Russia, it is very unique due to their history and the Czarist Empire grew to include non-European lands which is beyond the Urals. Yet, Russian culture and its language is originally in European part---then Russians spread out to other parts of the Empire then in the Soviet Union.
I think Eurasia is a better description for Russia and many countries?
I shall look forward to see what other people have to say on your topic.
Who knows that there might be a person who would change our views on this topic?
Thanks for your interesting post, RobertP!
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Valued Member
Romania
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Thank you all for the answers! I think I will put russian and cyprian coins to Europe and turkish coins to Asia. |
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Valued Member
United States
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RobertP, I am happy to see that you get help with our inputs! I wish you all the best with your coin collecting!  |
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Valued Member
Romania
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Thank you, Carrigna, the same to you!  |
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