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A Continuing Thread ~ Post Your Tokens, Medals, Exonumia Acquisitions

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Impressive medal and nice story, TNG !

below is another pair of copper jetons from the same period as the storks nest; no evidence for variants this time

Minted in Dordrecht, Dutch Republic
Instauration of Prince Maurice of Nassau (prins Maurits) as count of Meurs

Obv. buste of Prince Maurice holding sword
MAVR PR AVR CO NASS CATZ MOERS MAR VER ET VLISS
Rev. coat-of-arms of Nassau and Meurs
IE MAINTIENDRAI 12 AVGVSTI 1601

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The interesting aspect of the copper jetons is the portrait of Maurits (not very common on coins or exonumia) and the mention of the motto Je maintiendrai (I will persevere), which is the motto on the coat-of-arms of the kingdom of the Netherlands since 1815.

As can be derived from these jetons, it was the also motto of the Orange-Nassau family, Maurits being the oldest son of William of Orange, the "father of The Netherlands".

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Nice detail in the design, I can see subtle difference in the dies. Prince Maurice has a different elbow design on the arm holding the sword. One looks to be like a rope, the other plain.
Quite a bit of history on this man at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauri...ce_of_Orange
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below is another pair of copper jetons from the same period as the storks nest; no evidence for variants this time
Very nice!
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1c5d7n5m Those are amazing!
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thanks for your comments guys !

TNG you are absolutely right, there are minor differences between dies of these hand made pieces, but the Dugniolle Online catalog http://www.dugniolle.com/dugniolle3501-3600.html) does not mention these minor differences only legend variants (see below)

Also great that you added a wikipedia weblink for Maurits who was a military genious that changed the perspectives in the 80 years war against Spain

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1926 US Sesquicentennial Exposition So-Called Dollar Copper HK-451

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My third variation of this medal is the copper version.
I have the bronze and nickel and there is a brass one I have not collected yet.
These medals are the most commonly encountered so-called dollars that commemorate 150th anniversary of Declaration of Independence for the 1926 Philadelphia International Sesquicentennial Exposition.

You know, the 250th anniversary is not very far off. Only 7 years! It seems just like yesterday that we were all excited about the Bicentennial!

HK-451 Copper
HK-452 Bronze
HK-453 Brass
HK-454 Nickel

Rather than repeat things, I will point to previous threads where I posted about these and my other two acquisitions. This link can take you to the first.
http://goccf.com/t/301479&whichpage=66#2792607


and

1903-4 Louisiana Purchase Good Luck Dollar HK-310
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Obverse has date 1803 with conjoined busts of Thomas Jefferson and Napoleon Bonaparte
Napoleon Sold It - April 30th - Jefferson Bought It 1803
Referring to the purchase of the Louisiana Territory from France in 1803 which nearly doubled the size the young nation for a purchase price of $15 million.

Reverse has a "Good Luck" horseshoe encircled by a ribbon for the Saint Louis Exposition, also known as The St Louis World's Fair and Louisiana Purchase Exposition.
7 stars above and a four leaf clover and 7 stars below.

There is also the slogan "Stars and Stripes Forever". The Stars and Stripes Forever, composed by John Philip Sousa in 1896. It is the national march of the United States of America.

Watch if you like. There are plenty of videos out there. This one has the lyrics which you don't often hear. Many people may be familiar with the song from 4th of July fireworks and celebrations but know little about the march song itself.

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I have a complete set of 135 cards that make up my 1952 Topps Look N See set.
Here's number 115.

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There are four variations which all have a diameter of 36mm and a reeded edge.
I would assume that these are most likely in order of rarity, the gold being obviously most rare with 2 known. I do not have estimated or actual mintage figures on the others.

This so-called dollar is the brass composition with what I understand has a rarity of R5.
What that means I do not know since there are numerous rarity scales. My best guess is that there are considerably less than a couple hundred known to exist.

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Those are both really nice TNG. I particularly like that first copper one.

And thanks for those lyrics, I can't remember hearing them before.
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Very nice story TNG ! I wonder (very naive question) Is there any CCF thread dealing with the first tokens or coins issued at the start of the American Revolution?

The examples above made me looking at other minor differences between pairs in my collection
here is an example that has "escaped" the quite complete Dugniolle so far:

Token issued in 1685 in Brussels by Jan Heymans, treasurer of the city
reference Dugniolle 4501

Obv. coat-of-armsJan Heymans QVESTOR TOTIES TOTIESQ SENATOR
Rev. City Hall of Brussels, Saint Michel, patron of Brussel defeating evil, on top of the highest pinnacle BRVXELLA SEPTENARIA NVMERO GAVDEMVS EODEM

piece #1 : 16 head 85 flanked by points
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piece #2 : 16 head 85 without points
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Very nice addition 1c5d7n5m!
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It makes me wonder about the die making process in the days of old when knights were bold.
Nice ones as usual. I see the dots at date.
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With these hand made pieces the variation between dies is quite common, especially in the legends

here is another example from "twins" in my collection
Piece #1, the legend of the OBV has a point before the tip of the sword
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Piece #2, the legend of the OBV has a cross before the tip of the sword
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this is also the type of variation that goes undetected in the most complete catalog of tokens from the Netherlands, Dugniolle

both are examples of the 1578 token from the city of Antwerp announcing the Union of Utrecht (signed 23 January 1579). This was an important political step, uniting the different states of the Northern Netherlands during the war of independence agains Spain. The Southern provinces counter-acted with a pro-Spanish Union of Atrecht (Arras).

The symbol of the bundle of arrows (each arrow being one of the united provinces) will return many times in coins of the Dutch Republic

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This is a piece done by Joseph H Merriam, a Civil War era medalist and die sinker in Boston. It depicts Daniel Webster, a US Senator, Congressman, and Secretary of State. It is done in white metal.

As I have begun my exploration of medals,tokens, and exonumia, I have been very impressed with the works of Merriam. Many are out of my collecting price range. This one interested me because of the subject matter. Webster's estate, where he died and said his last words("I still live"), still stands in my hometown of Marshfield,Ma.
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great medal, thisistheshow !

what could be the nature of the white metal - anything else than silver?
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