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A Continuing Thread ~ Post Your Tokens, Medals, Exonumia Acquisitions

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See this link for the write up from Bas S Warwick
http://goccf.com/t/301479&whichpage=43#2723027
Military history of Australia during World War I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milit..._World_War_I

Many thanks for the gift from Bas S Warwick on the 99 year old
1919 Australia WWI Victory medal which arrived today in a colorful envelope slathered with nice stamps. I took pics right away and emailed Bas and told him I was going to work on it a bit. I am very pleased how it came out.


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In hand it has almost all of the silver wash remaining but my photos make it look copper colored.
It is very much a silver colored medal with just the high points showing some base metal showing through.

I love it! Thanks again Bas!

No. 1 Squadron, Australian Flying Corps next to their Bristol fighters, at Mejdel in February 1918.
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Soldiers of 11th Battalion, AIF, posing on the Great Pyramid of Giza on 10 January 1915, before the landing at Gallipoli.
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Also recently added to my small collection of tokens

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I bought this item from a coin dealer for $15 at a local coin show:
Nice additions!
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Many thanks for the gift from Bas S Warwick on the 99 year old
1919 Australia WWI Victory medal which arrived today in a colorful envelope slathered with nice stamps
Excellent!
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@TNG
Thanks for posting the medal pictures and giving the history/pics.
Always pleased to hear when a package survives a 12,000 km journey without mishap.
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More Conder tokens? Of course!

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My 22nd different Heraldic Art Medal
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Griffin Coins . I got me a San Diego!

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Gaspar de Portolà was a Spanish soldier and administrator in New Spain. As commander of the Spanish colonizing expedition on land and sea that established San Diego and Monterey, Portolà expanded New Spain's Las Californias province far to the north from its beginnings on the Baja California peninsula.
Portolà's expedition also was the first European to see San Francisco Bay. The expedition gave names to geographic features along the way, many of which are still in use.
Portolà traveled with Saint Father Junípero Serra who was canonized by Pope Francis in 2015.
Father Junípero, was a Roman Catholic Spanish priest and friar of the Franciscan Order who founded a mission in Baja California and the first nine of 21 Spanish missions in California from San Diego to San Francisco.

There is a relief bust of Portolà outside of The Museum of Man near Balboa Park.
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Thanks for the contributions. I like Conder Tokens. Only have a few but I do think I have a couple variations of the Brutus one.
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There is another version with Caesar (facing right) and either CAESAR or a (punning) ARMOR (sic) VINCIT PATRIAE legend, both with the Britannia seated reverse.

Brutus was apparently a popular figure in England in the late 18th/early 19th c, as this recently-acquired evasion issue attests:

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Britannia is called "BEL ONA" (sic), a reference to the Roman Goddess of War Bellona, consort of Mars.

The depiction of King George III as Brutus suggests that the engraver had a pretty poor knowledge of Roman history, or alternatively, had a pretty poor opinion of King George III!
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Conder tokens

an eye-opener for me

apparently (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conder_token) a topic with a long tradition of collecting
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A pattern emerges: tokens were a focus of early coin collectors

James Conder (1761-1823), was a good example of an early token collector (who hid his collection under the doorstep of his house)

Conder, James. An arrangement of Provincial Coins, tokens, and medalets issued in Great Britain, Ireland, and the colonies, within the last twenty years, from the farthing to the penny size. Ipswich: G. Jermyn, 1798.

For the tokens I collect (80-years war between The Netherlands and Spain) the same seems true. Collectors items for centuries, the most famous being Gerard Van Loon (1683-1758) who wrote a work about Jetons and Medals of the Netherlands a fantastic collectors item in itself and a standard book of reference even today.

Van Loon: Beschrijving der Nederlandsche Historiepenningen of beknopt verhaal van 't gene sedert de overdracht der heerschappye van keyzer Karel den Vyfden op koning Philips zynen zoon, tot het sluyten van den Uytrechtschen vreede, in de zeventien Nederlandsche gewesten is voorgevallen ('s-Gravenhage, 1723-1731) Four volumes.

https://books.google.es/books/about...&redir_esc=y
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or alternatively, had a pretty poor opinion of King George III!


That is certainly believable.

Thanks for the info on these guys!
I'll have to dig out my small collection and post them.
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Even in the 1790s when issued the tokens were widely collected, which is why a large number survive in EF and Uncirculated grades. Collecting these issues became self-sustaining, with tokens being made exclusively for collectors, including "manufactured" mules (different obverse and reverse dies) and other variations in die alignment, edge lettering, legends, and devices.

Similar tokens were made and used as a means of political expression, a way of letting like-minded folks find each other and identify themselves without risking the ire of the King in an era when the King was still the center of British authority and "libelous or seditious" (i.e. of an opinion contrary to His Majesty's) speech could land you in jail and/or hanging from the gallows pole. Sentiments which could never be spoken aloud for fear of being overheard could be communicated by a token exchange instead.

In addition to Conder's book, there are some other books that might be of interest to anyone considering collecting these tokens -- not an exhaustive list by any means...

Dalton, Richard & Sam H. Hamer. The Provincial Token Coinage Of The 18th Century (source of D&H numbers used in catalogues)

Withers, Paul & Bente. British Copper Tokens 1811-1820 (source of Withers numbers used in catalogues)

Withers, Paul & Bente. The Token Book, vols. 1-3 (see above)

Bell, Robert. Tradesmen's Tickets And Private Tokens 1785-1819 (source of Bell numbers used in catalogues)

Bell, Robert. Political And Commemorative Pieces Simulating Tradesmen's Tokens 1770-1802
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So I have posted these earlier and since I had a few duplicates.
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I decided to make a second set after I found the General Lee at a great price.
I picked up cheap ones, gambling by the images that they will arrive in better shape than expected.
( which I often do with good results )

On the way
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Here is a link to my other post in this thread when I completed the first set.
http://goccf.com/t/301479&whichpage=35#2694377

These are nickel medals and have a proof-like appearance.
A complete 1947 set includes these 8 medals.
This is my first set .
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Pony Express Diamond Jubilee (1935)
Minute Man Lexington Sesquicentennial (1925)
Lindbergh Flight to Paris (1927)
Admiral Byrd Antarctic (1928-1930)
Thomas Edison Centennial (1947)
Daniel Boone, Lexington, KY (1925)
Confederate Half Dollar ( Bust of Gen. Lee ) Replica 1807-1870
Confederate Seal Replica 1862



If anything comes of it, I might be able to upgrade set No.1 from the incoming, and sell off set No.2 down the road.
They get a good price sold as a set and even better, if I can locate a Wayte Raymond or Meghrig page to go with it.

There are 4 other 1948 c.smith so called half dollars I am always on the lookout for that have a connected theme to the Spanish American War and are apparently 50th anniversary commemoratives.

I have only one of these, an odd gold plated version of the Sampson medal and I don't know why it is plated.

Admiral Sampson
Battleship Maine
Admiral Dewey
Theodore Roosevelt

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