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I cannot translate what I think I see here as AHILABONNE CORRECTIO you purchased an interesting piece, TNG see more information on this page http://www.inumis.com/vso//premiere...-a53894.htmlSatiric Medal made by Bija in 1914 Ah ! La bonne correctionis a polite way of saying: this spanking serves the  well there may be differences between the two medals 1) your medal is mentioned to be made of solid silver - the piece on iNumis (28 mm, 7,16 g) is described as being made of silver plated bronze 2) on the reverse of the iNumis piece there is an inscription. DePOSe |
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Thank you 1c5d7n5m ! I edited my previous post to add that info and tweaked my post. http://goccf.com/t/301479&whichpage=57#2766990This spanking medal may not be solid silver, even though it was sold as such. It doesn't matter to me either way. The word DePOSe translated from French to German is depose. ( if it were "depose" in English ) would translate: to remove from a throne or other high position
plotting to depose the king
a deposed military leader which makes senseThere is another recently sold for about twice what I paid that had LIEGE 1914 on it instead and had DePOSe on the reverse.  The 220,00 Euro in your link http://www.inumis.com/vso/V00036/pr...-a53894.html which I imagine is 220 Euro in USD is worth $258.06 today. Do you think that is what that medal in your link sold for? A price realized ? Nombre d'offres : 3 Meilleure offre : 220,00 € Prix realise : 220,00 € Why the comma? Shouldn't that be a decimal instead? Even so, if it were a decimal, 220.00 € is an awful lot of money for one. I suspect 22 Euro is more like it. If it is correct, I paid about 1/20th of that.  I think there is something wrong with my exchange rate figuring on that.  and I know ...It doesn't mean my medal is worth $250.00 LOL Not that I care one way or another. I like the medal and history behind it. Edited by TNG
07/22/2018 11:38 am
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hi TNG one of my mentors in numismatics once replied to my naive question, what is the value of my coin? what the fool is prepared to payso the trick in coin collecting is to avoid the busy places where the urge to possess meets competition, this creates the bidding cycle and prices that hurt (unless it does not matter) Quote:
Why the comma? Shouldn't that be a decimal instead? that is the European way: we use a comma where you use a dot and vice versa we write one million as 1.000.000 Quote:
I paid about 1/20th of that. well done ! money cannot be discarded entirely, but the historical context is something you cannot express in dollars what do you think I payed for this very rare item connected to pages of historical context? http://goccf.com/t/324013 |
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Only time I get excited about the price I pay is when I paid way too much. That jeton of the monkey and the turtle is amazing and I wouldn't have the slightest idea of what that might have sold for. For me it isn't much about the money. The history I have learned in Exonumia has very much kick started my brain for another fun ride in numismatics. Oh and thanks for the info on the monetary exchange. I guess my figuring was right. That was a lot to pay for that item in that link. Edited by TNG
07/22/2018 11:51 am
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For me it isn't much about the money. The history I have learned in Exonumia has very much kick started my brain for another fun ride in numismatics.
I feel the same about collecting the monkey and turtle jeton was part of a lot - in which the average price I paid per item was 25$ considering the pleasure of digging as deep as possible => (re)discovering the context that mattered to our ancestors, I think this amount of money is small compared to other hobbies |
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..... is a polite way of saying: this spanking serves the ... well a terrible word seems missing, probably censored with the CCF civilization protection software |
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one of my mentors in numismatics once replied to my naive question, what is the value of my coin?
what the fool is prepared to pay While I understand people are in business to make a living, I find such attitude toward the customer unfortunate. |
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My son is part of a revolutionary war reenactment group. A couple of years ago, the group went to Canada as part of the 350th anniversary of St. Jean. The pictured medal was given to all of the participants.   |
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a terrible word seems missing, probably censored with the CCF civilization protection software Yes, for good reason.  |
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My son is part of a revolutionary war reenactment group. A couple of years ago, the group went to Canada as part of the 350th anniversary of St. Jean. The pictured medal was given to all of the participants. Very nice! |
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I find such attitude toward the customer unfortunate reading this comment I realize that the old Dutch expression " wat de gek er voor geeft" cannot be translated into English without the risk to be misunderstood; I simply wanted to say that if there are two bidders on the market competing for the same item and absolutely wanting the coin, the hammer price may go to a crazy value that cannot be rationalized in a way that is unfortunate for most customers who do not have a fortune to spend; it can be a way to loose money when selling the same coin on a later moment two other competing bidders are not showing up on the auction but when you realize that danger, a few experiences like that is learning money what my mentor really wanted to say is that - apart from the money issue (which cannot be ignored of course) - the passion of collecting something that fits to your personal interest (e.g. historical context) is priceless; when you collect on this basis and do this with patience, the endeavor is likely to become a fortunate experience Edited by 1c5d7n5m
07/23/2018 3:46 pm
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reading this comment I realize that the old Dutch expression "wat de gek er voor geeft" cannot be translated into English without the risk to be misunderstood; I simply wanted to say that if there are two bidders on the market competing for the same item and absolutely wanting the coin, the hammer price may go to a crazy value that cannot be rationalized
in a way that is unfortunate for most customers who do not have a fortune to spend; it can be a way to loose money when selling the same coin on a later moment two other competing bidders are not showing up on the auction
Ah, yes, I've seem many crazy bidding wars. From the dealers perspective, it would make sense to offer the token at a fixed price if they really think it's a problem..although bidding wars are so common, that it appears few people either care or understand what's going on. |
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in the past few years "bidding culture" has been intensified with
* the multiplication of auctions (there is at least one with international attention every week going on)
* electronic life-bidding on more and more auctions
this has led to higher prices which is good for those that already have built a collection, but not so good for starters that want to move somewhere near a beginning collection
a pity, since long-term future of numismatics depends on new generations of collectors that experience the passion and interest in coins as more valuable than the money issue; this is why the price of coins should remain reasonable
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07/23/2018 5:43 pm
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Thanks for hopping in the pool beancounter. Nice Fort Saint-Jean medal you son got. Must have been a nice trip.
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