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I wanted opinions on what grades these are. Small coins give me a little trouble.   |
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1850-O VF25 details, damaged (scratch and hit on cap on obv, digs on rev) but it still has some eye appeal and a nice circ cameo look.
1845 "High 5" is VF30 full grade. Maybe even 35. Very attractive.
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 can't argue wit dat. |
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1850-O F15
1845 F15
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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1850-o VF20 but due to dings, VF15
1845 VF25 --> I like this one
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Full shields but no full toe. The 45 is vf-35. The 50 is 30/
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12/05/2017 02:44 am
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I'd put both of them at VF25 if they were mine. Pretty nice examples too.
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Both 25. 1850-O does have the obverse scratch and dent but neither of them would get kicked as details. With super giant magnification those appear more detrimental than they really are. Holding coin in hand I doubt you would consider those itty bitty marks as anything but normal evidence of circulation.
Yes, it would be nicer without them, but keep them in perspective.
Also - neither of those minor marks affect technical grade in any way. Technical circulation grades are strictly dependent on circulation, not dings.
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Ok, thanks everyone. Once I took the pictures of them, I noticed I could grade them more easily too. I was questioning if they made VF or not. I can tell they do now and it looks like most agree. I didn't even notice the marks on the 1850 O until the pics. They aren't noticeable unless blown up in a picture.
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Wow what a spread on these opinions! Id say EF-40 on both.
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Coinfrog, yes, quite a spread on opinions. I've gotten anywhere from 15 to 40.... to details to not details. Come to think of it, y'all didn't help me a bit. Haha!!!
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Sharp Liberty, sharp clasp, reasonable hair detail - these coins are EF.  |
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jpbone, below are the PCGS Photograde Seated half dime illustrative obverse and reverse plate coins for F15. The obverse is pretty much in line with your coin. Note that in the reverse F15 plate, the leaves in the wreath mostly have visible midribs (the stem running through the center of the leaf). In both your coins, none of the leaves show any sign of the midribs. The PCGS F12 plate shows flat leaves with no midribs. Imho, your coins have slightly better than F15 obverses and slightly less than F15 reverses, thus my grade was F15 for both. I am just expressing my opinion, and others may be right and I may be wrong. I'm just providing the basis for the opinion I expressed and I hope that it is helpful. Personally I like your coins. They seem problem free and great examples. Even the one with the tiny hit.   IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/05/2017 8:14 pm
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@ numismatic student: Note the rims of the PCGS plate coins versus the OP's coins.
Rims are often a good starting point when evaluating a coin. The OP's coins have full, bold, strong rims on both the obverse and reverse. The PCGS F15 example shows far more wear.
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